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1 posted on 01/01/2013 1:17:26 PM PST by Salvation
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2 posted on 01/01/2013 1:18:28 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Love it! Every year I put up a Catholic calendar entitled “Our Lady in Art” in my workplace & it drives my Calvinist coworkers nuts:

“You call her the `Mother of God’, that means she’s a goddess, right? And depicting Jesus as an infant belittles His ministry, doesn’t it?”

In 1998 I asked them, “Who would you rather led this nation, John Paul II or Bill Clinton?”

“That’s not fair!!”


5 posted on 01/01/2013 1:30:59 PM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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22 posted on 01/01/2013 2:10:41 PM PST by narses
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23 posted on 01/01/2013 2:11:17 PM PST by narses
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As a “was raised Roman Catholic,” let me assure you that the converts from Evangelical to RC aren’t real. There’s no way that you can be saved by the grace through faith alone and then go back to relying on your works. I instead proclaim that those evangelical converts had not really understood what they thought they believed. They’re called false converts. Ray Comfort has a great sermon called Hell’s Best Kept Secret. You should listen to it. I was amazingly gratified to stop praying to Mary and repented of it deeply to my Savior, Jesus Christ. The last words we hear Mary speak, “Do whatever He(Jesus) tells you.”
Thanks for the article.


27 posted on 01/01/2013 2:24:34 PM PST by deltaromeo11 (Luke 16:31, Gen 7:16)
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Most Protestants freak out when they hear “Queen of Heaven”. I would be one of those.


30 posted on 01/01/2013 2:31:38 PM PST by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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As an Evangelical, let me just say this:

It is quite possible, and I am more than ready to believe, that the RC Church discerns a theological distinction between ‘worship’ and ‘reverence’ or ‘adoration’ or whatever word is used.

I am even willing to admit for the sake of argument that said distinction actually exists.

However, what we see is that in practice it is a distinction without a difference.

Especially in 3rd world countries, I have seen for myself that for the peasant Catholic there, it is often Mary rather than Jesus, or the Father, that is prayed to.

36 posted on 01/01/2013 3:59:19 PM PST by chesley (Vast deserts of political ignorance makes liberalism possible - James Lewis)
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I thought the Mariaphobics might be the criminals who are allergic to residing in Maricopa Country, AZ!


37 posted on 01/01/2013 4:06:25 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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I thought the Mariaphobics might be the criminals who are allergic to residing in Maricopa County, AZ!


38 posted on 01/01/2013 4:06:44 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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“Mariaphobia”? Perhaps Mariolatry would be a more descriptive term as this partial quote of the Catholic view of Mary shows:

“The power which Christ has by His nature, Mary has by grace. Like Him she sits upon a throne, and as Queen she wields a sceptre, and out of love every knee should bow before her, of those that are in heaven, on earth, and under the earth (Phil. 2:10). The inhabitants of heaven honour Mary with a special homage; they continually sing her praises with hymns and canticles. After the service of God nothing gives them greater joy than to serve Mary. The Archangel Gabriel, who greeted her in God's name at Nazareth now remains before her in heaven, regarding it as a privilege to receive her commands and to put them into execution. The Archangel Michael, deputed by God as the guardian of the Church, and the one whose office it is to introduce the souls of the saved into heaven, even he considers himself privileged to receive an expression of Mary's wishes. Similarly, the Archangel Raphael and the seven spirits that stand before the throne of God are always ready to carry out her will in all things. All vie with one another in honouring her and in finding new ways of rendering her the homage of their service, their love, and their devotion.”
(Devotional bulletin of the Rosary Crusade in Canada
May 2002 Issue #17) www.sspx.ca/Rosary_Crusade/issue_17.htm

How is it not idolatry to deliberately misapply Phil. 2:10 to Mary? Or is this a new syndrome....call it “Scripturaignoratum”? or pick your term.

39 posted on 01/01/2013 4:36:43 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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Love this picture:

While a crucifix is on the wall, the family's devotion is turned to Mary.

A picture is worth a thousand words.

51 posted on 01/02/2013 3:44:43 AM PST by HarleyD
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Question, sir.

I know that church canon says that Mary was conceived free from the stain of original sin. Is it also canon that she never sinned during her life, or is that a common teaching that has not been accepted as canon?

Not trolling, I really don’t know the answer.


66 posted on 01/02/2013 7:42:44 AM PST by kingcanuteus
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Satan and all the other evil spirits fear Mary because of her role as the Mother of God and because through her the Redemption of mankind was able to take place.


89 posted on 01/03/2013 10:47:21 AM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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