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To: wideawake

” but he has preserved the core tradition of the Reformation: blind hatred of the Catholic Church.”

Anyone can call themselves a Baptist, just as anyone can call themselves a Catholic. There are “Catholic” nuns pushing for abortion on demand. Yet the Protestants on FR aren’t blaming the Catholic church for that, are we?

The opposition to the RC church was hardly “blind.” You may disagree with all or some of the 95 Theses, but they are articulate and serious points, not blind rage.

As for hatred, it was RCs torturing and killing Protestants during the Inquisition, issuing papal bulls and death sentences and etc. I don’t blame all Catholics for that, not at all, but why accuse the Protestants of hatred? We were the ones being burned at the stake.


18 posted on 12/18/2012 9:44:23 AM PST by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Persevero
We were the ones being burned at the stake.

Tell that to Margaret Clitheroe and Edmund Campion.

20 posted on 12/18/2012 9:46:13 AM PST by wideawake
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To: Persevero
Yet the Protestants on FR aren’t blaming the Catholic church for that, are we?

Some of them (FR Protestants) appear to be doing just that. I don't recall ever seeing other FR Protestants rebuking them, either.

24 posted on 12/18/2012 10:08:01 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Persevero

Persevero:

For the record, the Spanish Inquisition had no jurisdiction over Protestants. It dealt with heretical Catholics. Jews and Muslim-Moors, who had conquered southern Spain 600 years earlier were not brought before the Inquisition courts. After the Spaniards won the war of re-conquest, all Muslims were expelled from Spain. Jews were given several months to leave, with their belongings. Some converted to Catholicism and stayed in Spain, the so-called Conversos.

Now, there were wars fought between Catholics and Protestants, yes, but those for the most part occurred on the battlefield between armies. In places where Protestants were a minority, which would be for example Bavaria, there could be issues, and vice versa, in Northern Germany where Lutheranism took hold, or Geneva where Calvin took hold, etc, or in King Henry’s England, etc, if you were on the wrong side of the state religion, then there were persecutions directed at individuals, yes and those went on till the Treaty of Westphalia (spelling) around 1642 which allowed for basic religous liberty for Protestants in majority Catholic lands and Catholics in majority Protestant lands.

But again, the Spainish Inquisitions really had little to do with Protestantism. It had everything to do with the Muslims in Spain and those Jews who allied themselves with the Muslims against Catherine of Aragaon and her Husband, who I forgot, when they forged an alliance to finally drive out the Muslism from Spain and reunite it as a Catholic Country, which of coure today it it a shadow of its old self with secular liberalism dominateing its politics and culture just like much of the rest of Europe [England, Holland, France, etc]


42 posted on 12/18/2012 1:27:02 PM PST by CTrent1564
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