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The Early Church Fathers on Mary's Perpetual Virginity  (Free)
Books -
Introduction to Mary by Mark Miravalle and Hail, Holy Queen by Scott Hahn and Mary and the Fathers of the Church by Fr. Luigi Gambero.
CD - Hail, Holy Queen by Scott Hahn and  The Gospel Truth About Mary - Volume 1 by Tim Staples
DVD - Footprints of God: Mary with Stephen Ray


1 posted on 03/24/2012 7:24:51 PM PDT by Salvation
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For the record

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2 posted on 03/24/2012 7:34:21 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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I disagree with the Roman Catholic interpretation on this matter, but that is not what I want to respond to. The last line has a simple answer:

“If Jesus had brothers and sisters, why did He entrust the care of His mother to the Apostle John?”

Answer: Jesus’ siblings didn’t believe in Him as the Son of God until after His resurrection. He brought a lot of trouble on them as Torah-believing Jews. Brother James finally got it after Jesus arose from the Dead. Nevertheless, Jesus was free to pick out whomever he wanted to take care of his mother.

I have a question for all believers, Catholics and Prostestants alike: Just where in the Bible does it ever say that “the disciple whom Jesus loved” is John? Nothing Jesus actually said to or about John in the Bible gives the least inkling of this. Yet, because these word appear in the Gospel of JOhn and because John is the only one of the original apostles who was not executed, an assumption is made by the Church that this is who Jesus was talking about.

I have heard sermons on this,one stating that John was just too darn humble to name himself. Right- The Son of Thunder too humble. I don’t buy it.


5 posted on 03/24/2012 7:50:10 PM PDT by Sioux-san
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There is no way that Mary is a perpetual virgin according to Psalm 69:8, Matt. 12:46-49,13:55 and Luke 8:19-21

Adelphos = brother
Adelphe = sister

The Greek is clear that Jesus had brother and sister, I'm not sure why there is even an argument?

Did I miss something?
7 posted on 03/24/2012 8:13:15 PM PDT by ForAmerica (Conservative Christian Black Man!)
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OK here we go again. I usually ignore all this Mary the ‘Holy Queen’ worshipful threads, but this one in particular caught my attention.

WHO are these so called ‘early church fathers’.... by name please?

This thread is nothing more than a continuation of making Mary something different than what the Scripture literally says. Mary was only crowned a ‘Holy Queen’ in the vivid imaginations of some who are for whatever reason obsessed with the notion that she would actually be a human if she had sex with her husband....

13 posted on 03/24/2012 8:51:13 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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More redefinition of words to suit Catholic doctrine. Now “until” means “never”, “sister/brother” means “cousin” and “Hebrew and Greek” means “Aramaic”.


14 posted on 03/24/2012 9:11:10 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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2Pe 3:16 As also in all [his] epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as [they do] also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.


18 posted on 03/24/2012 11:55:44 PM PDT by Bellflower (The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
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