WH: We Are Done Negotiating With Catholics

Creative Minority Report ^ | February 13, 2012 | Patrick Madrid

[NYer]

The great and powerful Oz has spoken, 'negotiation' time is over, time for you to ditch your silly religious beliefs and do what we say.

Obama chief of staff: No more compromise, contraceptive rule is done deal

Despite renewed statements of concern by Catholic leaders, the Obama administration is done negotiating and will finalize its plan requiring insurance companies to provide free contraception to women working and studying at religious institutions, President Obama's chief of staff said Sunday.

Jacob Lew told "Fox News Sunday" that the compromise offered last week to address objections by the Catholic Church is clear and consistent with the president's "very deep belief that a woman has a right to all forms of preventive health care, including contraception."

"We have set out our policy," Lew said. "We are going to finalize it in the final rules, but I think what the president announced on Friday is a balanced approach that meets the concerns raised both in terms of access to health care and in terms of protecting religious liberties, and we think that's the right approach."

For all you Catholic liberals out there, this is how the Marxists you elected do 'dialogue.' I would say I told you so but...actually...

I told you so.

The only, ONLY answer is the complete destruction of the mandate and Obamacare. There is no other way.

[NYer]

Ping!

[Logical me]

Ha Ha! Catholics got what they voted for. Our King and dictator has spoken with all the authority of Lucifer.

[ought-six]

FUBO!

[narses]

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[A.A. Cunningham]

Catholics got what they voted for.

Correction: Some people masquerading as Catholics got what they voted for.

[wmfights]

So far it seems your church leaders are holding strong in opposing this, but your Catholic Charities embraced the “compromise”. Lets hope your leadership sees the error of embracing “social justice” policies using govt tax dollars and will inspire your members to vote out all Rats.

[mountainlion]

You only think you are done but you will have the Supreme court to talk to. Other religions and people of values will be talking to you and courts. This is not done.

[maxwellsmart_agent]

Oh no you are not done negotiating with Catholics. We will be there in November.

[aruanan]

Oh no you are not done negotiating with Catholics. We will be there in November.

That won't be a negotiation. It will be a summary dismissal.

[Goreknowshowtocheat]

I hope so... With the Jews, you will still see 50% voting for this dope. I wish the Catholics better luck.

[mosesdapoet]

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Rhabe’s comments should be reviewed

This was posted in Britebarts Big Government and compiled by Jason Pollak but the significance is that the position has nothing to do with “health” but with implementing a government policy

ObamaCare Architect: Catholic Institutions Should Provide Birth Control as ‘Moral Imperative’ to Stop Population Growth
by Joel B. Pollak Robert Creamer–Democrat strategist, Obama 2008 campaign aide, and political architect of ObamaCare–argues that the new contraceptive mandate for Catholic institutions isn’t really about equality for women, or religious liberty.

Rather, it is about population control.

Creamer–like his wife, the pro-abortion Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-IL)–embraces the left-wing fallacy that children are a burden on the planet, which the state should encourage the church–and everyone else–to limit.

At 6:16-7:03 in the video below, by CNS News, Schakowsky describes abortion as “most often” a “responsible decision” to control the size of their families:

Writing in the Huffington Post yesterday, Creamer declared:

…[T]here is a worldwide consensus that the use of birth control is one of society’s most important moral priorities. Far from being something that should be discouraged, or is controversial, the use of birth control is critical to the survival and success of humanity….It is simply not possible for this small planet to sustain that kind of exponential human population growth. If we do, the result will be poverty, war, the depletion of our natural resources and famine. Fundamentally, the Reverend [Thomas] Malthus was right–except that the result is not inevitable….That’s why it is our moral imperative to act responsibly and encourage each other to use birth control.

Malthus’s late eighteenth and early nineteenth-century views, which still inspire much of today’s environmental movement, have been repeatedly disproved over the course of two centuries. Economic freedom, growth and innovation have made human society vastly more productive and efficient.

It is precisely because radical socialists like Creamer, Schakowsky and Obama detest the free economy that they continue to rely on old Malthusian and Marxist ideas.

Regardless, the indication by Creamer that the contraception mandate is not about “equality,” but population growth, suggests that the Obama administration’s challenge to the beliefs of the Catholic church may be more direct–and deliberate–than was previously suspected.

My coment

Eugenics.,is a basic tenet of socialism which includes the whole range of the “isms”. The new religions created by Marx, Lennin, and Fascists that mandates its followers practice population control, through abortion or sterilization and of course “mercy killing”. By edict Obama has not just violated the constitution by imposing a set of practices and their accompanying expences refuted by a religious group but has also sought to impose a belief system which is a defacto religion on another religious group...The results of this edict has not only created deep divisions within the groups affected which begs the question of the intent of result by the edicts issuance.

Defenders of this action quickly point to the regime decision to do so as its right because they are recipients of government funds. Those defenders convieniently ignore the fact that members of the groups affected have originally contributed those funds and were exempted from paying such costs resulting from and observing such practices that are now imposed upon them by the Obama regime.

Obama knows what h is doing . He will rely of statist media to follow up remind their readers of past transgressions by peophiles...exploit the differences by the CINOS It is an attempt to divide the church.

[wmfights]

That won't be a negotiation. It will be a summary dismissal.

I doubt it. They must have some interesting polling data that leads them to believe they won't lose the 55% of RC's that voted for them the first time. It would be great for America if they are wrong, but over the years I've seen a lot of FReepers claim the RCC is really conservative and I haven't seen it yet.

Look at how artfully the issue has been turned into a discussion about birth control and not State interference in churches, or that the birth control measures include abortion inducing drugs. Our enemy is a lot of things but he is not as dumb as we think, most women take birth control and would love to have someone else pay for it.

[MayflowerMadam]

Newsflash to White House: It’s not just the Catholics you’ll be dealing with. You’ve pissed off all religions by denying religious freedom to American citizens.

Newsflash to all the Catholics who voted for this asshole in ‘08: Don’t worry; we evangelicals who didn’t vote for him, because we we knew what/who he was/is, will fight your fight and try to clean up the mess you helped create.

[Army Air Corps]

Obama v. the Body of Christ. My wager is on the latter being victorious.

[A.A. Cunningham]

they won't lose the 55% of RC's that voted for them the first time.

If you're going to paraphrase unreliable, unscientific exit polls with suspect methodolgy, at least get the number correct.

most women take birth control and would love to have someone else pay for it.

By the way, do you now or have you in the past, taken oral contraceptives?

[chesty_puller]

We will be there in November

Yeah, Catholics are very reliable. I hate to knock another faith and have respect for the Catholic religion, but as far as Catholics go, they give us some real winners.

[Jonty30]

Oh good.

Let every person of the Christian faith remember this day as the day Obama and the Democrats told them to go pound salt.

[EDINVA]

To be honest, I hope that Creamer and Schakowsky, and all like them, practice birth control to their heart’s content.