The Evangelical Covenant Order Of Presbyterians?

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To my way of thinking the EPC already has a solution for evangelical feminists who want female ordination: Just find a congregation which agrees, and you’re good. It’s a freedom-based solution, in that each congregation can follow its conscience on the issue of female leadership in the Church.

However that’s not good enough for the feminists....they want a denominational organization which enforces feminism onto their congregations...(while not (yet) enforcing homosexuality (give that another 20 years or so)). Hence the ECO.

Actually I have a relative who’s a female PCUSA pastrix. She’s conservative about everything else except this issue. She looked into the EPC but doesn’t like it....as something like 95% of EPC churches have exclusively male clergy. Since she considers it a justice/fairness issue (don’t they all!) she cannot abide by letting congregations decide for themselves. While she hates it...she’s still staying PCUSA.

I believe it is a fish or cut bait issue. One either obeys the Bible on the issue, and you do not ordain females....or you just have to ignore the verses I posted above in the Ligonier quotation, opening yourself to other liberal go-arounds (like the homosexual-ordination issue).

Every single one of the Mainlines which started ordaining women—had the homosexuals pounding on the door within 10 years.

The reverence and authority we give the holy Scriptures really does matter—whether we label ourselves “evangelical” or not.

[narses]

My soul magnifies the Lord,
And my spirit rejoices in God my Savior.
For He has regarded the low estate of His handmaiden,
For behold, henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.
For He who is mighty has done great things for me, and holy is His name. And His mercy is on those who fear Him from generation to generation.
He has shown strength with His arm:
He has scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts.
He has put down the mighty from their thrones,
and exalted those of low degree.
He has filled the hungry with good things;
and the rich He has sent empty away.
He has helped His servant Israel, in remembrance of His mercy;
As He spoke to our fathers, to Abraham and to His posterity forever.

Glory be to the Father and to the Son and to the Holy Spirit.
As it was in the beginning, is now and ever shall be, world without end. Amen

Magníficat ánima mea Dóminum,
et exsultávit spíritus meus
in Deo salvatóre meo,
quia respéxit humilitátem
ancíllæ suæ.

Ecce enim ex hoc beátam
me dicent omnes generatiónes,
quia fecit mihi magna,
qui potens est,
et sanctum nomen eius,
et misericórdia eius in progénies
et progénies timéntibus eum.
Fecit poténtiam in bráchio suo,
dispérsit supérbos mente cordis sui;
depósuit poténtes de sede
et exaltávit húmiles.
Esuriéntes implévit bonis
et dívites dimísit inánes.
Suscépit Ísrael púerum suum,
recordátus misericórdiæ,
sicut locútus est ad patres nostros,
Ábraham et sémini eius in sæcula.

Glória Patri et Fílio
et Spirítui Sancto.
Sicut erat in princípio,
et nunc et semper,
et in sæcula sæculórum.

Amen.

She became the Mother of God, in which work so many and such great good things are bestowed on her as pass man’s understanding. For on this there follows all honor, all blessedness, and her unique place in the whole of mankind, among which she has no equal, namely, that she had a child by the Father in heaven, and such a Child . . . Hence men have crowded all her glory into a single word, calling her the Mother of God . . . None can say of her nor announce to her greater things, even though he had as many tongues as the earth possesses flowers and blades of grass: the sky, stars; and the sea, grains of sand. It needs to be pondered in the heart what it means to be the Mother of God.

(Commentary on the Magnificat, 1521; in Luther’s Works, Pelikan et al, vol. 21, 326)

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So Luther worshiped Mary as God? What evidence do you have of that?