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Posted on 01/15/2012 2:36:04 PM PST by narses
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People need to quit confusing “Catholic”, which means universal, with “Roman Catholic”. In the early Christian Church, everybody was considered “Catholic”. Some useful sources include www.goarch.org, www.oca.org and www.antiochian.org.
My Bible doesn't have that word Catholic in it anywhere. Are you sure you're not playing loosy goosy with a private interpretation?
very well said. After nearly 50 years on my journey - I have found that what Jesus founded was one universal cathoic church - The Catholic Church. Everything else Christian is the broken church of believers - it is broken because of the sin of man from both within and outside the one Church Jesus Christ founded.
Even in the early days, as we find in the Book of Acts, there were splinter churches and dissenters. One of the marks of the true Church was that it was universal, not a dissident local church.
So when it came to defining the Church at the Council of Nicea, it was said to be One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic.
There is only one true Church. So it says in the Bible. That one true Church is also seen to be Apostolic, headed by the bishops who descend from the original Apostles in unbroken succession. Catholic Church simply means Universal Church.
That was one reason why I left the Anglican Church, because like Newman I concluded that there was no way that it could be the universal Church, throughout the world and through all time since its founding by Christ. I received great good from growing up in the Anglican Church. I have read and considered its own claims to be universal and apostolic, and I found that I simply could not justify those claims.
The Council of Nicea put the word Catholic into the creed, but of course, as this article suggests, the word can be found much earlier, as a response to splinter groups that go back to the earliest days when the original apostles were still active.
My Bible doesn’t have the word[s] “Bible in it either”, Nor Holy Trinity, Incarnation, Original Sin, Two Natures of Christ yet One Divine Person. I also don’t find the word “abortion in it either” for example.
I could go on an on. Mt 16: 18 is more about Petrine Ministry. Mt 28 and the great Commission point to the Catholicity of the Church. Together, Catholicity and Unity, both Mark of the Church expressed in the Nicene-Constantinopilian Creed are strengthed by the Petrine Ministry which thru which Full Catholicity is maintained.
Jesus never Declared he had a Mother either! but He was a Baby.
Also they did not go to the bathroom either because it is not in the New Testament Bible.
Jesus never Declared he had a Mother either! but He was a Baby.
Also they did not go to the bathroom either because it is not in the New Testament Bible.
Good Grief! Double again!
What word does your bible have?
Ephesians 4
Make every effort to keep the unity of the Spirit through the bond of peace. There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to one hope when you were called; one Lord, one faith, one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.
Indeed. One Lord, One Church, One Truth.
“In the early Christian Church, everybody was considered “Catholic”
Yes, and the “Catholics” of the early Christian Church believed in the true prescence of Christ in the Eucharist just as the Catholic Church of today continues with this timeless teaching of Jesus:
St. Paul himself could not have been more clear: 1Cor 10:16, “The cup of the blessing that we bless, IS IT NOT THE SHARING OF THE BLOOD OF CHRIST? And the bread that we break, IS IT NOT THE PARTAKING OF THE BODY OF THE LORD?”
I agree, the non-Catholic Christian Churches of today hold little in common with the original “Catholic” church of the apostles.
Extremism in the posting of Truth is a Virtue, if I may misquote Barry.
We Anglicans still call ourselves “catholic”.
Are you sure you're not playing loosy goosy with a private interpretation?Oh yeah, I am sure.
Unlike the weirded out backwoods preacher types, actually going to source documents and accepting the truth helps. Or you can perform a do-it-yourself orchidecthomy like the cult leader of the Hale comet crowd did, or kidnap yourself like "Sister" Aimee.
I know, and many of you are returning Home to Rome as the Arch-Druid and his weirdness become more than they can bear.
Not everyone was catholic. There were catholics and heretics. And there were plenty of heretics, as well as cults posing as Christian, as there are today.
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