Posted on 12/30/2011 7:07:29 PM PST by rzman21
Mister, you are indeed a lunatic.
Ever learning and never coming to the knowledge of truth.
Good night.
Your judgment, not mine.
The Catholic Church has been the one and only church to stand against contraception, same-sex marriage, abortion, euthanasia, embryonic stem cell research — and for the truth in all things.
There have been mistakes, but I think that your judgment is in error.
Believe it or not — Anglicans, Lutherans, Prebyterians are all flocking to the Catholic Church because there are no women priests and the members of these denominations know that these sins against humanity mentioned above will not exist in the Catholic Church.
“The Gates of Hell shall not prevail against it.” in other words.
Do you really think that the many, many, many Protestant denominations are not decaying in the storefront churches?
Mister, you are indeed a lunatic.
>>I have the knowledge of faith. Perhaps you might need to look in the mirror at your own faith. Maybe the Holy Spirit is trying to tell you something in your vile reaction to me.
Faith in Him is true for it is the same as His.
Rom 3:22-24
(22) Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
(23) For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
(24) Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
The question is intertwined.
The scriptures are, in way, self-authoritative, not waiting for a church body to make them so. And they were recognized as such much earlier than many realize. For example, in I Timothy 5:18, Paul says, “for the scripture says, ‘You shall not muzzle an ox when it is treading out the grain,’ and, “The laborer deserves his wages.”
Well the first quote is from the book of Deuteronomy in the Old Testament, but the second quote is from the book of Luke in the New Testament (Luke 10:7), indicating that the book of Luke was already regarded as Scripture. Again, in II Peter 3:15b-16, Peter writes: “So also our beloved brother Paul wrote to you according to the wisdom given him, speaking of this as he does in all his letters. There are some things in them hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other scriptures.” In other words, at the time that Peter was writing, the writings of Paul were regarded as Scripture.
(next post, on the beginning of the church)
He really doesn’t have to rely on other people in the Church in order for His will to be fulfilled, although it does glorify the Son when all the members of His body work to glorify Him.
>>He doesn’t have to. But history shows that he has. How do you know that say the Gnostics weren’t right objectively speaking?
If the Church Fathers had no authority from God to say anything, how do you know that the Holy Spirit protected the New Testament and that we shouldn’t be running off to the nearest rabbi seeking to become Jewish?
If that Church Fathers were liars in their testimony for Christ then we should all convert to Judaism because without them there would not be any sort of objective witness to what is scripture and what isn’t.
The problem that I see with Biblical fundamentalism is that it seems to reduce faith to dead textualism that is devoid of a living communion with God and not just reading it.
For it is not the hearers of the law who are righteous before God, but the doers of the law who will be justified.
Romans 2:13
As St. Gregory of Sinai, a 13th century Greek monk, who is considered a saint by Catholics and Orthodox alike writes the following in his treatise: “On Commandments and Doctrines”
“Grace-imbued faith, energized by the Holy Spirit, alone suffices for salvation, provided we sustain it and do not opt for a dead and effectual faith rather than a living and effective faith in Christ.”
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God the Holy Spirit is more than adequate witness for believers in fellowship with Him.
Heb 10:12-16
(12) But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;
(13) From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool.
(14) For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.
(15) Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before,
(16) This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
Perhaps. Pastor John Reisinger, who is a free-will Baptist, makes my point better than I ever could.
http://www.gracesermons.com/robbeeee/assurance.html
Friend. You can’t prooftext your way to salvation.
Some of the early radical Protestants sects even rejected the need for the Scriptures. It notes that each human is unique, but ignores the need of society to define him. A boy raised by Wolves is certain to be mute.
Excellent article again.
Yes, I did actually read it all. :)
Hope to read it again after my trip...
I don’t have to. I’m already sealed.
Okay, sorry. I guess we need huge cathedrals and all the pomp and say this and do that and have priests with robes and whatever in order to worship properly.
BTW - ever read about Dorcas? Might be a bit of an eye opener on the early church.
I’m already sealed.
>>Aren’t you being just a tad presumptuous? Unless you have a living faith, it is worthless in the eyes of God.
What requires God to save you just because you give some sort of intellectual assent to something you read in the Bible?
Eternal security is unbiblical.
Free-will Baptists reject the idea, so what makes your interpretation more accurate than theirs?
I encourage your studies to refocus on the ministry of God the Holy Spirit in each and every believer.
If you are drawn to place faith in the authority of the RCC, then first place faith in Christ, remaining obedient to legitimate authority, but always focus on what God has provided and His active work in us, through faith in Christ.
Prior to study return to Him and confess all known and unknown sins to Him, so that while in fellowship with Him, He may grow your spirit and soul while studying His Word. (1Thes 5:19, 1John 1:9)
Here is a listing of a few verses which might assist your efforts, which in so reading, God the Holy Spirit might work in you.
The indwelling of the Holy Spirit in the believer’s body is found in Rom 8:10; Gal 2:20; Col 1:27; 1 Jn 2:24; 1 Cor 3:16, 6:19-20; 2 Cor 6:16.
Joh 14:23-26
(23) Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
(24) He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father’s which sent me.
(25) These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you.
(26) But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
2Ti 3:15-17
(15) And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
(16) All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
(17) That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
Rom 8:16,26
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