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(Jewish) Researcher Thinks Pius Xii Went Undercover To Save Jews
EWTN ^ | November 4, 2011

Posted on 11/05/2011 2:18:25 PM PDT by NYer

ROME, ITALY, November 4 (CNA/EWTN News) - The Jewish New Yorker who has made it his life's work to clear the name of Pope Pius XII of being anti-Semitic believes the wartime pontiff actually went undercover to save the lives of Jews in Rome.

Gary Krupp came across the evidence in a letter from a Jewish woman whose family was rescued thanks to direct Vatican intervention.

"It is an unusual letter, written by a woman who is alive today in northern Italy, who said she was with her mother, her uncle, and a few other relatives in an audience with Pius XII in 1947." Next to Pope Pius during the meeting was his Assistant Secretary of State, Monsignor Giovanni Montini, the future Pope Paul VI.

"Her uncle immediately looks at the Pope and he says, 'You were dressed as a Franciscan,' and looked at Montini who was standing next to him, 'and you as a regular priest. You took me out of the ghetto into the Vatican.' Montini immediately said, 'Silence, do not ever repeat that story.'"

Krupp believes the claim to be true because the personality of the wartime Pope was such that he "needed to see things with his own eyes."

"He used to take the car out into bombed areas in Rome, and he certainly wasn't afraid of that. I can see him going into the ghetto and seeing what was happening," says Krupp.

Krupp and his wife Meredith founded the Pave the Way Foundation in 2002 to "identify and eliminate the non-theological obstacles between religions." In 2006 he was asked by both Jewish and Catholic leaders to investigate the "stumbling block" of Pope Pius XII's wartime reputation. Krupp, a very optimistic 64-year-old from Long Island, N.Y., thought he had finally hit a wall.

"We are Jewish. We grew up hating the name Pius XII," he says. "We believed that he was anti-Semitic, we believed that he was a Nazi collaborator-all of the statements that have been made about him, we believed."

But when he started looking at the documents from the time, he was shocked. And "then it went from shock to anger. I was lied to," says Krupp.

"In Judaism, one of the most important character traits one must have is gratitude, this is very important, it is part of Jewish law. Ingratitude is one of the most terrible traits, and this was ingratitude as far as I was concerned."

Krupp now firmly agrees with the conclusions of Pinchas Lapide, the late Jewish historian and Israeli diplomat who said the direct actions of Pope Pius XII and the Vatican saved approximately 897,000 Jewish lives during the war. Pave the Way has over 46,000 pages of historical documentation supporting that proposition, which it has posted on its website along with numerous interviews with eye-witnesses and historians.

"I believe that it is a moral responsibility, this has nothing to do with the Roman Catholic Church," says Krupp, "it has only to do with the Jewish responsibility to come to recognize a man who actually acted to save a huge number of Jewish lives throughout the entire world while being surrounded by hostile forces, infiltrated by spies and under the threat of death."

Krupp explained that Pope Pius used the Holy See's global network of embassies to help smuggle Jews out of occupied Europe. In one such instance, the Vatican secretly asked for visas to the Dominican Republic- 800 at a time - to aid Jewish rescue efforts. This one initiative alone is estimated to have saved over 11,000 Jewish lives between 1939 and 1945.

Closer to home, the convents and monasteries of Rome-neutral territory during the war-were used as hiding places for Jews.

Krupp speculates that the wartime actions of Pope Pius XII, whose birth name was Eugenio Pacelli, can be further understood in the light of his own personal history. His great boyhood friend was Guido Mendes who hailed from a well-known Jewish family in Rome. Together they learned the Hebrew language and shared Shabbat dinners on the Jewish Sabbath.

Later, upon his election to the papacy in 1939, A.W. Klieforth, the American consul general in Cologne, sent a secret telegram to the U.S. Department of State explaining Pope Pius's attitude towards Nazism in Germany.

The new Pope "opposed unalterably every compromise with National Socialism," Klieforth wrote, after a private chat with the pontiff in the Vatican. The two men had got to know each other during Archbishop Pacelli's 12 years as nuncio in Germany.

Pope Pius, explained Klieforth, "regarded Hitler not only as an untrustworthy scoundrel but as a fundamentally wicked person," and "did not believe Hitler capable of moderation." Hence he "fully supported the German bishops in their anti-Nazi stand."

Krupp describes the reputation of the wartime Pope as both glowing and intact until 1963, when German writer Rolf Hochhuth penned his play "The Deputy." It portrayed Pope Pius as a hypocrite who remained silent about Jewish persecution.

The Pave the Way website carries evidence from a former high-ranking KGB officer, Ion Mihai Pacepa, who claims that the tarnishing of the Pope's reputation was a Soviet plot.

Krupp explains how the communists wanted to "discredit the Pope after his death, to destroy the reputation of the Catholic Church and, more significantly to us, to isolate the Jews from the Catholics. It succeeded very well in all three areas."

But he also firmly believes that a fundamental revision of Pope Pius's wartime record is now well underway. "The dam is cracking now, without question," he says.

Ironically, perhaps, Krupp says he meets more resistance when he speaks at Catholic parishes than in Jewish synagogues. "Many Jews," he explains, "have been extremely grateful, saying, 'I'm very happy to hear that. I never wanted to believe this about him,' especially those of us who knew him, who were old enough to know him."



TOPICS: Catholic; History; Judaism; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: catholic; holocaust; jews; judaism; nazis; paulvi; piusxii; pope; vatican; vaticanpaulvi; wwii

1 posted on 11/05/2011 2:18:28 PM PDT by NYer
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...
LIBRARY DOCUMENTS ON PIUS XII
2 posted on 11/05/2011 2:19:29 PM PDT by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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"We are Jewish. We grew up hating the name Pius XII," he says. "We believed that he was anti-Semitic, we believed that he was a Nazi collaborator-all of the statements that have been made about him, we believed."

But when he started looking at the documents from the time, he was shocked. And "then it went from shock to anger. I was lied to," says Krupp.

". . . . a former high-ranking KGB officer, Ion Mihai Pacepa, who claims that the tarnishing of the Pope's reputation was a Soviet plot."

A very good article. I chose these excerpts as the Pius XII story is part of a much larger effort. Sadly, if you talk about Kremlin plots, i.e., disinformation campaigns, people stop inviting you over for dinner.

3 posted on 11/05/2011 4:12:11 PM PDT by Oratam
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Musta been an Undercover Jewish Brotha! LOL!


4 posted on 11/05/2011 4:50:38 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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Yep, it’s a KGB disinformation operation ... but one that a certain subset of “conservative, Christian” FReepers swallow lock, stock, and barrel.


5 posted on 11/05/2011 6:36:16 PM PDT by Campion ("It is in the religion of ignorance that tyranny begins." -- Franklin)
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To: Oratam
"We are Jewish. We grew up hating the name Pius XII," he says. "We believed that he was anti-Semitic, we believed that he was a Nazi collaborator-all of the statements that have been made about him, we believed."

But when he started looking at the documents from the time, he was shocked. And "then it went from shock to anger. I was lied to," says Krupp.

". . . . a former high-ranking KGB officer, Ion Mihai Pacepa, who claims that the tarnishing of the Pope's reputation was a Soviet plot."

A very good article. I chose these excerpts as the Pius XII story is part of a much larger effort. Sadly, if you talk about Kremlin plots, i.e., disinformation campaigns, people stop inviting you over for dinner.
Ann Coulter's Treason, for example . . .
She documents the fact that Joe McCarthy was a patriot and an honest if flawed man.

But can you tell that to a "liberal?"


6 posted on 11/05/2011 7:15:16 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (DRAFT PALIN)
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The popes were unable to keep the German bishops from co-operating with the Nazis. But most Churchmen underestimated Hitler.


7 posted on 11/05/2011 9:17:03 PM PDT by RobbyS (Viva Christus Rex.)
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"Krupp describes the reputation of the wartime Pope as both glowing and intact until 1963, when German writer Rolf Hochhuth penned his play "The Deputy." It portrayed Pope Pius as a hypocrite who remained silent about Jewish persecution."

When I was moving from my original house my mother had this book of the play. She wrote all over it in the pages how it was a lie. The press during the war showed consistently anti-nazi catholic articles by the pope. I know my mother read those articles during that era. She told me all about it.

Also a another personal note. I met the nephew of Pope Pius who was still alive as of several years ago about 2005 and 2006. I used to deliver to him. He had hand written notes from his uncle in his very own apartment in Mineola N.Y. He grew up in the Vatican during the fifties. He said it was all lies. He had pictures of him as a kid with his uncle ( Pope Pius). It was the greatest privilege for him to know his uncle. He saw nothing but a love for God and people.

8 posted on 11/05/2011 11:04:46 PM PDT by johngrace (1 John 4!- declared at every Sunday Mass.)
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"We are Jewish. We grew up hating the name Pius XII," he says. "We believed that he was anti-Semitic, we believed that he was a Nazi collaborator-all of the statements that have been made about him, we believed."

" When he grew up" I believe he means when he was a teenager. This play really changed the truth into a lie around the early sixties. Before this play Jews awarded Pope Pius for his heroic efforts.

This is all part of the unseen Cold War misinformation games by the Soviets.

9 posted on 11/05/2011 11:14:00 PM PDT by johngrace (1 John 4!- declared at every Sunday Mass.)
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After reading this story a few times, I thought I saw the clever hand of Monsignor Hugh O'Flaherty in this. He was the only one in the Vatican with the cleverness and flair to disguise the pope as a Franciscan monk for a trip outside the Vatican.

I went into my DVD library and pulled out "The Scarlet and the Black", the 1983 TV movie with Gregory Peck as O'Flaherty, and Christopher Plummer as O'Flaherty's nemesis, Colonel Herbert Kappler of the Gestapo. It bolstered my suspicion that O'Flaherty was the genius behind this operation.

10 posted on 11/06/2011 3:46:46 PM PST by Publius
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To: NYer

bumpus ad summum


11 posted on 11/08/2011 7:22:42 PM PST by Dajjal (Justice Robert Jackson was wrong -- the Constitution IS a suicide pact.)
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bumpus ad summum


12 posted on 11/08/2011 7:33:42 PM PST by Dajjal (Justice Robert Jackson was wrong -- the Constitution IS a suicide pact.)
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