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US Bishop on unrepentant pro-abort pols: ‘Treat them as a tax collector or Gentile. Expel him.’
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| August 11, 2011
| CHRISTINE DHANAGOM
Posted on 08/11/2011 3:32:13 PM PDT by NYer
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posted on
08/11/2011 3:32:15 PM PDT
by
NYer
To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...
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posted on
08/11/2011 3:32:48 PM PDT
by
NYer
("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
To: NYer
To: NYer
Excellent, excellent. Please God that all the bishops would show such backbone.
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posted on
08/11/2011 3:35:02 PM PDT
by
Robwin
To: NYer
I find it interesting that most of the pro-abort politicians who claim to be Catholic are also for stealing money by raising taxes and actually practice paganism.
To: NYer
Outstanding!
Just the sort of captain that the Albany (NY) diocese needs to replace (the abysmally failed) Archbishop Hubbard.
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posted on
08/11/2011 3:44:31 PM PDT
by
Mobties
(Reduce the government footprint! Let the markets work!)
To: MIchaelTArchangel
Biden, the Kennedys, Pelosi, Sebelius, Kerry....
what a sordid lot.
To: NYer
Well said. The shame is that some will pretend that this is controversial, due to the wafflers of these last forty years, although he is saying Church teaching, nothing controversial at all. Although I wish this had happened sooner I am glad to read this, and wish it would occur more often.
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posted on
08/11/2011 3:57:24 PM PDT
by
sayuncledave
(A cruce salus)
To: NYer
” The Church should seek the conversion of pro-abortion politicians, but if they remain obstinate they should be expelled from the Church, says Bishop Samuel Aquila of Fargo.”
Ummm...O.K., Has he attempted to expel anyone yet?
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posted on
08/11/2011 4:36:55 PM PDT
by
count-your-change
(You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
To: NYer
I want more conservative red meat in American Catholicism, I hope this Bishop prevails.
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posted on
08/11/2011 5:10:24 PM PDT
by
ansel12
( Bristol Palin's book "Not Afraid Of Life: My Journey So Far" became a New York Times, best seller.)
To: count-your-change
Don’t know. Are there any pro-abort Catholics in his diocese?
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posted on
08/11/2011 5:13:20 PM PDT
by
COBOL2Java
(Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
To: NYer
The Fargo diocese is either at or near the top among American dioceses in terms of priestly vocations per capita. Not a surprise, with a bishop like Bp. Aquila. (Hmmm ... “Aquila” is “eagle” in Latin, isn’t it?)
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posted on
08/12/2011 12:43:25 AM PDT
by
Campion
("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies when they become fashions." -- GKC)
To: Mobties
Just the sort of captain that the Albany (NY) diocese needs to replace (the abysmally failed) Archbishop Hubbard. We need to pray long and hard for our future bishop. It will take decades to turn this diocese around. The same is true up in Rochester, where Clark will also be retiring next year.
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posted on
08/12/2011 5:25:13 AM PDT
by
NYer
("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
To: NYer
Amen and FINALLY!!!!! Expell them ALL!
To: All
The Church should seek the conversion of pro-abortion politicians, but if they remain obstinate they should be expelled from the Church, says Bishop Samuel Aquila of Fargo.
Sadly, Archbishop Chaput has indicated that it is the responsibility of the communicant to stay away from the Communion Rail. This is not correct. Rather, it is the responsibility of the Minister of the Eucharist to deny Holy Communion. This is a huge difference that goes against the Church's teachings regarding canon 915 as well as recent statements from the Vatican stating that the manifest pro-abortion politicians must be denied, and the burden IS upon the Minister to deny, NOT upon the communicant to stay away
. -- from the thread Will Denver Catholic Archbishop finally enforce Canon 915?
"...there's a question about whether this canon'' the relevant church law "was ever intended to be used'' to bring politicians to heel. He thinks not. "I stand with the great majority of American bishops and bishops around the world in saying this canon was never intended to be used this way.'' -- from the thread [Archbishop] Wuerl: Why I Won't Deny Pelosi Communion
Albany Bishop Howard Hubbard says it is "unfair and imprudent" to conclude that Gov. Andrew Cuomo and his girlfriend, Sandra Lee, shouldn't receive Communion simply because they're living together. -- from the thread Bishop: None of your business (Hubbard rejects Catholic expert's criticism of Gov. Cuomo)
[Archbishop Timothy Dolan] also does not outright deny the sacrament to dissenting Catholic lawmakers, but he is seen as an outspoken defender of church orthodoxy in a style favored by many theological conservatives.
-- from the thread US bishops elect NYC archbishop as head in upset (Catholic bloggers blamed)
"An archbishop who says nothing about these sacrilegious Communions is teaching his diocese that being pro-abortion is not sinful. By flouting Canon 915, he is also teaching his diocese that obedience to Canon Law is optional."
-- FReeper Arthur McGowan, September 17, 2009
Related threads:
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posted on
08/12/2011 10:46:43 AM PDT
by
Alex Murphy
(Posting news feeds, making eyes bleed: he's hated on seven continents)
To: NYer
Our Lord tells us to speak to the person, and then take two or three others with us if he does not change, he said. If he still does not change, the Church can speak to him, which is done through the bishop. [The bishop] exercises the authority of Christ. Christ then says that if that person is still obstinate and will not change, treat them as a tax collector or Gentile. Expel him. Amen !
Chaput is a self-confessed member of the "tax collector" party
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posted on
08/12/2011 10:56:53 AM PDT
by
Uri’el-2012
(Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
To: UriÂ’el-2012
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posted on
08/12/2011 7:33:38 PM PDT
by
A.A. Cunningham
(Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
To: A.A. Cunningham; UriÂ’el-2012
"Former member." As was Ronald Reagan. I'll also bet that Gomer wasn't always a member of his crack-pot sect either.
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posted on
08/13/2011 9:04:56 AM PDT
by
Natural Law
(For God so loved the world He did not send a book.)
To: sayuncledave
I don’t think that the bishop gets many pats on the back at the USCCB. More typical are the likes of the former cardinal archbishops and Los Angeles and Washington, DC.
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posted on
08/13/2011 4:21:48 PM PDT
by
RobbyS
(Pray with the suffering souls.)
To: A.A. Cunningham
Chaput is not popular at the USCCB either, but now that he has moved up, I am sure the panderers will be more friendly.
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posted on
08/13/2011 4:24:45 PM PDT
by
RobbyS
(Pray with the suffering souls.)
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