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To: Quis Custodiet

Your post has had a big effect on me, I have always been very pro-celibacy for the priesthood and have always defended it from the position that ending it would weaken the Catholic church and was a form of attack on it, but you have led me to see that it can strengthen, and perhaps even save the church.

There doesn’t seen to be another way to stop the natural drifting of religious homosexuals and deviants to the priest pool except by totally banning them 100% even on mere suspicion, and that would leave almost no applicants as things stand, and there isn’t very much time left to act because by your estimate, already the majority of priests are homosexual, at some point they will have an iron grip on the system, and then we are looking at corruption within the entire church as they take it over.

The angry public reaction that the Catholic church sees in regards to the gay issue, is the suspicion/fear, that the system has already been accepting closet deviants to make up short falls, for so many generations or decades, that the system itself is compromised, that the deviants are a part of the hiring, training, and disciplinary process now.


136 posted on 07/10/2011 12:06:48 PM PDT by ansel12 (America has close to India population of 1950s, India has 1,200,000,000 people now. Quality of Life?)
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To: ansel12

“There doesn’t seen to be another way to stop the natural drifting of religious homosexuals and deviants to the priest pool except by totally banning them 100% even on mere suspicion, and that would leave almost no applicants as things stand”

I don’t think that’s true, because conservative areas report a large number of vocations. Perhaps normal men avoid the seminaries because the sodomites infest them, but will return once the situation is cleaned up.

You were right in your long-held opinion that celibacy is important. We don’t have to give that up to get the sodomites out of the priesthood. That can only be accomplished by banning them from the seminaries and throwing them out of the priesthood.

It doesn’t have to be done on mere suspicion. Men who suffer from same-sex attraction disorder cannot stop themselves from acting out, sooner or later.

The Holy Father has already moved in the direction of removing sodomites from the priesthood. Perhaps not as rapidly or dramatically as you or I might wish, but I’m willing to accept that he is wiser than I.


137 posted on 07/10/2011 4:58:52 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: ansel12

“The angry public reaction that the Catholic church sees in regards to the gay issue, is the suspicion/fear, that the system has already been accepting closet deviants to make up short falls, for so many generations or decades, that the system itself is compromised, that the deviants are a part of the hiring, training, and disciplinary process now.”

It is true that the system has accepting closet deviants for several decades, that the system itself is compromised, and that the deviants are now a part of the hiring, training, and disciplinary process.

However, they weren’t accepted to make up for shortfalls. They weaseled their way in through deception, then began making things easier for those who came after.

We’ve seen it in a number of places with both sodomites and leftists. That’s how they take over an organization, an industry, or a profession.


138 posted on 07/10/2011 5:05:09 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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