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To: Jack Hydrazine; Alamo-Girl; Amityschild; AngieGal; AnimalLover; Ann de IL; aposiopetic; aragorn; ...

Ex 33:22:

New International Version (©1984)
When my glory passes by, I will put you in a cleft in the rock and cover you with my hand until I have passed by.
New Living Translation (©2007)
As my glorious presence passes by, I will hide you in the crevice of the rock and cover you with my hand until I have passed by.

English Standard Version (©2001)
and while my glory passes by I will put you in a cleft of the rock, and I will cover you with my hand until I have passed by.

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
and it will come about, while My glory is passing by, that I will put you in the cleft of the rock and cover you with My hand until I have passed by.

GOD’S WORD® Translation (©1995)
When my glory passes by, I will put you in a crevice in the cliff and cover you with my hand until I have passed by.

King James Bible
And it shall come to pass, while my glory passeth by, that I will put thee in a clift of the rock, and will cover thee with my hand while I pass by:

American King James Version
And it shall come to pass, while my glory passes by, that I will put you in a cleft of the rock, and will cover you with my hand while I pass by:

American Standard Version
and it shall come to pass, while my glory passeth by, that I will put thee in a cleft of the rock, and will cover thee with my hand until I have passed by:

Bible in Basic English
And when my glory goes by, I will put you in a hole in the rock, covering you with my hand till I have gone past:

Douay-Rheims Bible
And when my glory shall pass, I will set thee in a hole of the rock, and protect thee with my right hand, till I pass:

Darby Bible Translation
And it shall come to pass, when my glory passeth by, that I will put thee in a cleft of the rock, and will cover thee with my hand, until I have passed by.

English Revised Version
and it shall come to pass, while my glory passeth by, that I will put thee in a cleft of the rock, and will cover thee with my hand until I have passed by:

Webster’s Bible Translation
And it shall come to pass, while my glory passeth by, that I will put thee in a cleft of the rock: and will cover thee with my hand while I pass by:

World English Bible
It will happen, while my glory passes by, that I will put you in a cleft of the rock, and will cover you with my hand until I have passed by;

Young’s Literal Translation
and it hath come to pass, in the passing by of Mine honour, that I have set thee in a cleft of the rock, and spread out My hands over thee, until My passing by,


Then there’s a host of Heavenly Visitations that are Biblically solid that indicates your construction on reality is likely quite flawed on such scores.

Sounds like you have fallen victim of

CHRISTO-PLATONISM

as Randy Alcorn lays out so well in his 500+ page

HEAVEN

Then as Isaiah said:

I SAW THE LORD HIGH AND LIFTED UP AND HIS TRAIN FILLED THE TEMPLE.

I suppose one could claim that such physical manifestations of the God-head are ‘merely’ matrix simulations—illusions, 3D holographic videos etc.

However, that’s NOT the God of the Bible that I know. HE LIKES the REAL THING.


143 posted on 07/02/2011 11:06:02 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix

How about in the Garden?

Genesis 3:8

“Then the man and his wife heard the sound of the LORD God as he was walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and they hid from the LORD God among the trees of the garden. 9 But the LORD God called to the man, “Where are you?””

Do you think God walked physically in the Garden?
Do you think an omniscient being like God would have a hard time finding a couple people in the Garden?

How about Deuteronomy 4:34?

“Has any god ever tried to take for himself one nation out of another nation, by testings, by signs and wonders, by war, by a mighty hand and an outstretched arm, or by great and awesome deeds, like all the things the LORD your God did for you in Egypt before your very eyes?”

Do you ever imagine God with a giant arm reaching down from low Earth orbit to save Jews in war?

How about Genesis 8:21?

“The LORD smelled the pleasing aroma and said in his heart: “Never again will I curse the ground because of humans, even though every inclination of the human heart is evil from childhood. And never again will I destroy all living creatures, as I have done.”

I have to wonder what God’s nose looks like? I bet it’s a pretty big thing that floated over the Earth.

Now here’s the kicker in Numbers 23:19!

“God is not a man, so he does not lie. He is not human, so he does not change his mind. Has he ever spoken and failed to act? Has he ever promised and not carried it through?”

So we have what appear to be acts of God exerting physicality even though in the five books of Moses that it says He is non-corporeal. He lives in a realm beyond space and time that we can not really comprehend that when view by people like Isaiah can not even begin to explain that world in way we can really understand.

Will Jews ever deviate away from the teaching going all the way back to Moses that God isn’t physical? Where did Moses get all that light that shown from his face that scared his fellow Jews? Was it from a place in this universe or in a place that is beyond the physical?

Maybe the Torah has some mistakes in it? Maybe God decided to rewrite his “infallible” Word because it needed an upgrade to version 2.0 (aka the New Testament) because He didn’t quite get it right the first time and also to fit the times since man had evolved since the time the Torah was written.

Maybe the Koran was another upgrade and then finally the Book of Mormon as the final upgrade. Don’t you think man desires to create God the way he wants Him instead of the way He is and always will be?


150 posted on 07/02/2011 12:14:37 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Quix

“I suppose one could claim that such physical manifestations of the God-head are ‘merely’ matrix simulations—illusions, 3D holographic videos etc.

However, that’s NOT the God of the Bible that I know. HE LIKES the REAL THING.”

Define ‘real’. Which world is real? This universe or the world where God dwells (aka ‘heaven’) that is beyond time and space?


152 posted on 07/02/2011 12:18:11 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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