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To: marbren
Rules today, in our American culture, are not followed and made up as we go.

You have stated the 'LCMS didn't follow its own rules' and here you imply the same. In the real world, how do you back up your assertion? I'm not interested in your fictional world since that is 'based on your experience', and therefore is not your experience. You have made a judgement about an organization to which you purport membership, but have provided no proof of this deviation from its (LCMS) rules. No names are required, but what rule of the organization has been violated and under what circumstances?

865 posted on 05/29/2011 12:48:19 PM PDT by xone
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To: xone
You have stated the 'LCMS didn't follow its own rules' and here you imply the same. In the real world, how do you back up your assertion?

That part of the story comes later. I will back it up with facts. My Local church history, I think, is very important to the context of where we are today. I believe I am beginning to understand the dirty Lutheran pride. There are two components one has a lot to do with my ethnic group EG#1. I asked P#4 yesterday if we are an isolated dysfunctional church. P#4 has been around the country with the LCMS. He says the Pride is a systemic issue with the LCMS. Our church is just more overt in the manifestation of the dirty kind of pride. BTW is there a good kind of pride? Isn't humility and being poor in spirit the first step in the walk of faith in our Lord Jesus Christ?

Matthew 5:1-3 (New International Version) 1 Now when Jesus saw the crowds, he went up on a mountainside and sat down. His disciples came to him, 2 and he began to teach them. The Beatitudes He said: 3 “Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

866 posted on 05/30/2011 11:14:52 AM PDT by marbren
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