Posted on 04/28/2011 2:49:15 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
Thank you for posting. Very interesting and I will check it out even closer when I have time.
Sounds just like Jimmah Cahtuh.
The “Old Right” anti-Semites such as Gerald L.K. Smith, Wesley Swift, Gerald Winrod, and Russell Maguire have opposed chr*stian Zionism from the beginning (describing them as “Zionuts” among other humorous labels). Now the Left is joining their “polar opposites” on this issue. But then, the Nazis and Communists have always been joined on this issue, haven’t they?
These people have a holy book that is neither the New Testament or the Old Testament. If I had to hazard a guess, I’d say the book they consider Holy Writ is Das Kapital.
You know darn well that “Christian” Zionism has nothing to do with traditional Christianity. If Americans support Israel for geopolitical reasons that is one thing, but there is no Christian moral imperitive to intervene in religious disputes between Muslims and Jews. Both these religions reject Jesus as the Messiah and share the same dietary rules.
Its pretty bad. My pastor tried to tell me that the Israelis spin the news... Apparently he’s never heard of “Paliwood” and other nifty Pali propaganda efforts.
Yes, I know that. And I wish the chr*stian Zionists themselves would also and become Noachides, but they cling to the "new testament" with the same fervor that they cling to the Hebrew Bible.
However, mistaken though they may be, their dedication to the Hebrew Bible shows that they have more of an intention to worship the true Jewish G-d than classical chr*stians do, and I pray HaShem recognizes their zekhut for doing so.
I'm quite sure, by the way, that your attitude (the traditional one in your church) is one reason your church is so dismissive of the stories of the Hebrew Bible.
??? I was unaware of that.
I'm quite sure, by the way, that your attitude (the traditional one in your church) is one reason your church is so dismissive of the stories of the Hebrew Bible.
??? I was unaware of that.
Bevadday. First the Catholic Church rejected the rituals of the Hebrew Bible and (chas vechalilah!) "replaced" them with post-Biblical rituals of its own. It was only a matter of time before the stories of the Hebrew Bible would suffer the same fate--being dismissed as "mythology" while being replaced with new post-Biblical stories.
This is not as drastic as Iraq (2 million in 2003 and 400,000 now and falling) -- Christians are threatened all over the Moslem world. See the killing of Shahbaz Bhatti
The Christian church IS Israel.
Can you clarify. If you mean that the Church has replaced Israel utterly and Israel no longer blessed under the Old Covenant, then that is wrong, utterly wrong
To the Jews "belong the sonship, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the worship, and the promises; to them belong the patriarchs, and of their race, according to the flesh, is the Christ", "for the gifts and the call of God are irrevocable."
Israel is to the Christian church as the caterpillar is to the butterfly.
Yes, but Israel, i.e. the Judaic religion still exists. Is it still under the Old Covenant or not?
The old covenant ended 2000 years ago. "There is no Jew, there is no Greek".
I'm sorry, you cannot take this as justification that the covenant God made with the Jews has been revoked. God does not go back on his word, He has extended the grace given to the Jews before Christ to the gentiles.
We are like new branches grafted on the old -- we are not replacing the Jews but are now partaking with them and yet by accepting Christ's blessings we are partaking in the new covenant and in His grace.
The Jews who accept Christ's blessings are doubly blessed, but those who do not accept Christ are not "replaced"
God does not go back on His Word. He made a covenant with the Israelites and He stays true to His Word.
Romans 9:4-6 4 the people of Israel. Theirs is the adoption to sonship; theirs the divine glory, the covenants, the receiving of the law, the temple worship and the promises. 5 Theirs are the patriarchs, and from them is traced the human ancestry of the Messiah, who is God over all, forever praised![a] Amen.
Romans 11:1 1 I ask then: Did God reject his people? By no means! I am an Israelite myself, a descendant of Abraham, from the tribe of Benjamin. 2 God did not reject his people
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