Posted on 04/06/2011 3:04:55 PM PDT by NYer
Enjoy the program.
My youngest brother (the movie buff) loved the whole series. I have watched bits and pieces of them all, but haven’t ever been able to sit thru any of the series.
Who the Golem suppose to be I want to know LOL!
PRECIOUSSS PRECIOUS RING LOL!
While Tolkein is sublime, Joseph Pearce is himself quite interesting. For those unfamiliar with it, his conversion story may be found here:
Race with the Devil: From the Hell of Hate to the Well of Mercy
I don’t like the movies all that much. Why couldn’t they stick to the text?
I have a book Joseph Pierce wrote about Tolkien, that I got at the homeschool store clearance sale. It was very interesting. He’s an engaging writer, although a discerning reader sometimes has to say, “And how do you know that?!?”
Forget the movies. Watch a travel show about New Zealand, and then read the books (or the other way around). Tolkien’s sentences are absolutely exquisite; it’s like being in the Basilica of the Immaculate Conception.
They didn’t stick to the story so as to avoid some gals from frowning in displeasure at the lack of “strong female characters”, as far as I can tell. I think the movies were as good as could be expected, considering they cut Glorfindal and other parts. The worst is the added stuff, I think.
And yes, Tolkien could put together a sentence. I think Jack Vance has him beat, though.
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I agree. I understand cuts have to be made, unless the show's going to run 14 hours like the Russian version of "War and Peace," but taking out the author's content and adding someone else's in is just evil.
I had the feeling the director had a crush on the Arwen actress - her part was WAY too big! Plus, he and his writing partner admitted that they didn’t want Aragorn to be too noble and brave. More modern to have weaker man and woman in control. Not at ALL like the book!
Yes, that’s the problem ... “more modern.” The only parts I really liked were the scenery, and Elrond looking like Sam Neill in a bad mood. I really like Sam Neill.
LOL! I loved the scenery too....and Sean Bean!
Yes, Sean Bean is quite scenic. He was wonderful as “Lieutenant Sharpe” in the BBC/PBS series.
I didn’t care for the movies much. I noticed that all evil beings were initially good. As I know little about Catholicism can someone tell me - Just who was Tom Bombadil?
A totally fictional character, invented by J.R.R. Tolkien. There is no one-to-one matchup of LOTR characters or events with Catholicism.
One can see in the figure of Tom Bombadil echoes of Christian souls such as St. Francis of Assisi, whose experience of God had a directness and simplicity outside societal norms and intellectual structures. See G.K. Chesterton's biography.
On the other hand, Tolkien had many other historic and literary influences other than the Catholic Faith. Someone with more knowledge of the subject than I might find a source for the character within the English and Scandinavian historical and mythological traditions in which Tolkien specialized.
He represents our attachment to sin .... those attachments that are too "precious" to give up.
The program was excellent ... did you watch it?
The documentary was about the Catholic symbolism in the book. It had nothing to do with the movie. If you missed it last night, you can watch the replay tomorrow, Friday, at 1 pm. In the introduction, Pearce described a conversation between Tolkien and CS Lewis who was a self-proclaimed atheist. That conversation so impacted Lewis that within a few weeks, he was calling himself a christian. The result, as we now know. were the Chronicles of Narnia.
I always saw more parallels to Norse mythology, myself. Pretty much all the characters relate back to some Scandinavian myth or other. The only possibly Christian idea I ever saw was the idea of dying for something greater than yourself, but even that isn’t specifically Catholic at all.
A truly great book, even if you’re not Catholic. I try to read the whole thing once a year. I never tire of the great heroism, loyalty, and sacrifice of the characters.
And I always laugh out loud when Gandalf says stay to the right path because the left path smells funny!
No wonder Catholics don't like the Bible.
OH YEAH NYER I watch it live it was goodddd
I didn’t realize how much Cathoic faith really inspirated Lord of the rings book authors
SO that deal with Golem LOL!
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