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To: dangus; Dr. Eckleburg; RnMomof7; presently no screen name; topcat54; 1000 silverlings; ...
Because most of those people you named have been bitterly anti-Catholic since I first started coming around FR almost a decade ago. And not one of them seems to know a single thing about Catholicism, but instead characterize it like they read about it in some comic book.

Comparing Catholicism to a comic book is a refreshing acknowledgment of the truth from a Catholic.

If you and other Catholics choose to not believe what really goes in in Catholic churches around the country, you are certainly free to do so, but the problems that exist within the Catholic church will never be seriously addressed and dealt with as long as Catholics continue to stick their heads in the sand and deny reality, that is what is really going on in the parishes and lives of lay Catholics across the country.

Every time ex-Catholics point out inconsistencies between Catholic tradition and the CCC, and Scripture, the knee jerk reaction is always the same, name calling and epitaphs of *Catholic hater* and *anti-Catholic*.

You don't suppose that if so many ex-Catholics who lived in different areas of the country and never knew each other can relate the same accounts of what goes on in the Catholic church, that there just might be some truth to it?

Nah, I suppose it's expecting too much to think that Catholics just might consider trying to take a good hard, objective look at their church as non-Catholics see it.

1,085 posted on 03/28/2011 8:07:32 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom; Alex Murphy; Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock

>> You don’t suppose that if so many ex-Catholics who lived in different areas of the country and never knew each other can relate the same accounts of what goes on in the Catholic church, that there just might be some truth to it? <<

HAHAHAHA!!!

You guys cc each other on literally thousands of posts a week; Alex Murphy and Gamecock apparently spend HOURS a DAY scouring teh news for MSM news stories which cast Catholicism in a bad light. You guys proof-test the entire internet looking for out-of-context quotes to post as evidence for your assertions. And then you expect me to be impressed that “Catholics who lived in different areas of the country and never knew each other” have similar stories???

You have to be joking! What portion of their lives do Gamecock, AM and Dr. Eck spend on FR getting their stories together?

>> If you and other Catholics choose to not believe what really goes in in Catholic churches around the country, <<

Well, we know what goes on in Catholic churches plenty because we actually go to them, unlike your swarm who pull up quotes from the obscurest of sources, while remaining entirely ignorant of the sources. (Gamecock is the funniest when he tries to make Augustine out to be a Calvinist!) And yes, we see a lot that does piss us off, and we post about it on Free Republic, and we strategize how to stop it. But you don’t read those threads because your swarm doesn’t ping you to them.

But what’s hysterical is this:

All these Calvinists here act like we Catholics are so remiss in cleaning up the Catholic Church (even while that’s our primary fixation). And so what are the largest CALVINIST churches: Presbyterian Church USA, a church which actually ENDORSES homosexual relationships, including those between teens and adults. YEah, while you’re ranting and raving about how evil the Catholic church is for mishandling teen-adult homosexual relationships, the PCUSA is blessing them.

Of course, next to the United Church of Christ (the second largest Calvinist denomination) they seem downright first-century. The UCC is ashamed to even call itself Christian.

Let’s see, then there are all these Calvinists who are so proud to call the Church of England “reformed” when discussing how important the C of E was to the founding fathers... but they seem to have nothing to do with it as it presses ahead and promotes homosexuality, abortion, anti-semitism, and so forth.

So while you pcik on us Catholics for fighting (increasingly successfully) to reform (in the REAL meaning of the word) the Catholic Church, you guys must be meeting in denominations that could convene in a broom closet. But no, THIS generation’s Calvinist schism will succeed in repelling liberalism, where the greats like John Edwards failed. How exactly?


1,102 posted on 03/28/2011 8:40:36 PM PDT by dangus
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