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To: MarkBsnr
re:Was Belloc in schism with the Church because he knew better than the Church what was what?

Know better than the Church? Give me a break. ONLY GOD KNOWS BETTER THAN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH! I've read all of Bellocs books. What exactly did he write that "knew better than the Church"?

My question was, why post such a long article for something that's defined by a few words in any Catholic dictionary?

You are an Eastern Orthodox if I remember correctly, is that why you jumped at my comment?

What is schism; and what is heresy? --Schism is the refusal to submit to the authority of the Pope; heresy is the formal denial or doubt by a baptized person of any revealed truth of the Catholic Faith.

8 posted on 03/25/2011 12:45:30 PM PDT by verdugo ("You can't lie, even to save the World")
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To: verdugo
Know better than the Church? Give me a break. ONLY GOD KNOWS BETTER THAN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH! I've read all of Bellocs books. What exactly did he write that "knew better than the Church"?

If you reread my post, hopefully I was able to formulate a statement that attempted to portray Belloc as a loyal Catholic as opposed to those in willing schism with the Church - Gibson was my example; I suppose that Lefebvre is another.

My question was, why post such a long article for something that's defined by a few words in any Catholic dictionary?

In order to fully understand the history, significance, development and ramifications of the term.

You are an Eastern Orthodox if I remember correctly, is that why you jumped at my comment?

You remember improperly. I consider the Bishop of Rome to be my bishop.

Heresy is not doubt; heresy the proclamation of belief or doctrine at variance with the beliefs or doctrine of the Church. When the saints had doubts, they did not stray into heresy, they doubted, they did not stray into heresy. Private doubts or, in the case of Mother Teresa, a feeling of abandonment, is not heresy. I have a feeling that reaquaintance with the Catechism might do wonders.

14 posted on 03/25/2011 2:01:11 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so..)
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