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To: Dr. Eckleburg
The posts were in bold because sometimes it's easier to format in bold than in italics.

There was no need to type in either, and it's no easier to type a "b" than an "i" in html.

Huh? What does "dead" mean to you?

James is saying a faith without works becomes dead. I believe you're saying it was dead to begin with?

146 posted on 03/13/2011 10:20:48 PM PDT by Lorica
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To: Lorica; metmom
There was no need to type in either, and it's no easier to type a "b" than an "i" in html.

If typing "b" and "blockquote" you can separate paragraphs with a simple "P."

If you use "I" for every sentence, you have to use "I /I P I" for every new sentence.

Once again, idiotic deflection.

James is saying a faith without works becomes dead.

That's not what the verse says.

"Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.

But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?

For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also." -- James 2:17,20,26

"Is dead." Present tense.

Faith without works is not true faith because it does not display the fruits of the Holy Spirit, which are the good works of Christ within us.

His works.

152 posted on 03/13/2011 10:39:42 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Lorica; Dr. Eckleburg

No, James is saying that faith without works IS dead.

the Greek word is *estin*: are, belong, call, come, consist

The word “is” in verse 17 in the Greek.
http://strongsnumbers.com/greek/2076.htm

It is the same word in verse 26.

What James is saying is that mere intellectual acknowledgment is not true faith. Even the demons believe and tremble. True faith results in works and actions, but works and actions are not what saves someone, they are what demonstrates that the faith is real. if you’re trusting in your works or actions to save you, you’re in big trouble because they can’t. They don’t grant forgiveness.

Works cannot save. Those who appealed to their works, the miracles they did clearly believed that there was a God and they had works to appeal to, and yet Jesus said He never knew them.

Catholics can point to all the works which the Catholic church has set up for them to do, but those works are not going to save them. If the Law, which God Himself gave, cannot save, then nothing man institutes as a means of salvation can save either.

It’s a person who saves, not actions.


168 posted on 03/14/2011 6:33:42 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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