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Mormonism in the Early Jewish Christian Milieu
FAIR LDS ^ | by Barry R. Bickmore

Posted on 01/04/2011 10:01:55 PM PST by Grig

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1 posted on 01/04/2011 10:02:28 PM PST by Grig
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To: Grig

You know, we can download “War and Peace” for just a few bucks these days.

I am sure there is a LOT of interesting and useful information in your OP — but I, for one, don’t have an entire summer vacation to read it!


2 posted on 01/04/2011 10:06:32 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Nothing sharpens the mind like not being able to get a job. /Nonstatist)
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To: Tennessee Nana

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3 posted on 01/04/2011 10:16:04 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Grig

The ancient Greeks and Romans kindsa sorta believed in planet-gods, the Hindus in reincarnation. Maybe LDS could focus on finding evidence that they are latter day Spartans, or latter day Shivas.


4 posted on 01/04/2011 10:21:48 PM PST by Notwithstanding
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To: Tennessee Nana

The mormon fable record has more gaps in 2011 years than the fossil record has since the dawn of time.


5 posted on 01/04/2011 10:31:31 PM PST by Notwithstanding
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To: Tennessee Nana

To know Joe Smith is to know mohammed?


6 posted on 01/04/2011 10:35:00 PM PST by Notwithstanding
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To: blasater1960

bmfl


7 posted on 01/04/2011 10:48:58 PM PST by blasater1960 (Deut 30, Psalm 111...the Torah and the Law, is attainable past, present and forever.)
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To: Grig; Tennessee Nana

Pardon my French, but this whole article is “Résidus de Taureau”


8 posted on 01/04/2011 11:03:16 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Grig

Dude. You owe me a new pair of glasses. About half way through this 79 page single spaced Doctoral thesis, my eyeballs fell out and cracked my lenses.

Give a warning or learn to summarize. This is FR, not the New England Journal of Medicine.


9 posted on 01/04/2011 11:17:59 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Grig

IB4PD


10 posted on 01/04/2011 11:35:28 PM PST by Imnidiot (THIS SPACE FOR RENT)
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To: Grig

I might sift through this one tomorrow...very late here now. Interesting coming from a Roman Catholic given that their Church is also not the same as ancient Christianity.


11 posted on 01/04/2011 11:45:33 PM PST by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: Grig

>>for we shall see him as he is.” <<

That was deceptively misinterpreted by Satan in the Garden of Eden also. Interesting how humans today still fall for the deception.


12 posted on 01/05/2011 2:55:07 AM PST by CynicalBear
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To: Domandred

“I might sift through this one tomorrow...very late here now. Interesting coming from a Roman Catholic given that their Church is also not the same as ancient Christianity.”

Actually, it IS the same as ancient Christianity. A better refutation of Mormonism might be found with Robert Sungenis.


13 posted on 01/05/2011 3:27:14 AM PST by sayuncledave (A cruce salus)
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To: sayuncledave
Words mean things.

Mormonism is all about Morman. He wandered from Ohio to Utah with many women.

Christianity is all about Jesus Christ. He is the one true living God. Father, Son and Holy Ghost. The Trinity.

14 posted on 01/05/2011 5:06:32 AM PST by Broker (Hell is a reality.)
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To: Broker
Mormonism is all about Morman. He wandered from Ohio to Utah with many women.

I know we are supposedly on the same side of this argument, but your statement above needs to be amended in so many ways I can't even start.

15 posted on 01/05/2011 5:31:31 AM PST by colorcountry (Comforting lies are not your friends. Painful truths are not your enemies.)
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To: Grig

Mormonism is to traditional Christianity EXACTLY what Christianity is to Judaism.


16 posted on 01/05/2011 5:43:37 AM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Grig

Very interesting. I read every word. Twice. Thank you for posting.

Where do I sign up? Do I get my extra wives now, or is it the standard 6 to 8 weeks?

Do I get a card to track my conversions and baptisms like Subway tracks my foot longs?

I know I have to give up beer, but would Coors Light count? I’m willing to make sacrifices, afterall.

Finally, do I have to vote for Romney? Even you have to admit he’s a liberal dope.


17 posted on 01/05/2011 5:44:26 AM PST by ConservativeWarrior (In last year's nests, there are no birds this year.)
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To: colorcountry; Colofornian; Elsie; FastCoyote; svcw; Zakeet; SkyPilot; rightazrain; ...
WELL! It's certainly unusual for a mormon to actually post some verification of what MORMONS ACTUALLY BELIEVE! Instead of doing nothing but whining and attacking others for doing so.

However, there is one section that Christians must be aware of in this article:

Limitations of This Study

There are certianly limitations to our inquiry. Few Jewish Christian documents have survived, and those that have are from a range of different groups within that milieu. In any case Joseph Smith said that things would be revealed in this dispensation which have been "kept hid from before the foundation of the world," (D&C 124:41) so some LDS doctrines may not have been taught by the ancient Saints. We should also expect some cultural differences to affect some matters of interpretation and practice.

The prophet Alma wrote, "For behold, the Lord doth grant unto all nations, of their own nation and tongue, to teach his word, yea, in wisdom, all that he seeth fit that they should have; therefore we see that the Lord doth counsel in wisdom, according to that which is just and true." (Alma 29:8)

Nevertheless, it is clear...(this remains to be seen) that in most of the basics, at least, our hypothetical "Former-day Saints" would have to have been very much like the Latter-day Saints, so we can expect to find a good deal of Latter-day Saint doctrine and practice within the ancient documents. The balance of this paper will demonstrate that this is, indeed, the case.

There it is folks, a disclaimer at the very beginning stating the article is "a hypothetical".

I await refutation by the Bible scholars on the forum and keep in mind that any information based on mormonism is based on what Joseph Smith said.

18 posted on 01/05/2011 6:30:15 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (("A Leftist assumption: Making money doesn't entitle you to it, but wanting money does.")
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To: greyfoxx39
I await refutation by the Bible scholars
19 posted on 01/05/2011 6:38:42 AM PST by Utah Binger (Finally home to a foot of snow. A warming trend is occuring. It is 20 degrees right now.)
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To: Grig

Wow, 119 citations all with a stamp of approval from a Morg apologetics site and lovingly hosted there...


20 posted on 01/05/2011 7:00:28 AM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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