Because Christians in the Bible did not misidentify hallucinations as miracles.
The vision at Guadalupe and the vision at Fatima and the vision at Lourdes are really and truly the hallucination at Guadalupe and the hallucination at Fatima and the hallucination at Lourdes.
A religion built on hallucinations is not a Scriptural faith and those who put their faith in hallucinations stand on shifting sand.
Why not call the Resurrection the "hallucination at the tomb"? Or Paul's vision "the hallucination on the road to Damascus"?
It's the same argument.
The vision at Guadalupe and the vision at Fatima and the vision at Lourdes are really and truly the hallucination at Guadalupe and the hallucination at Fatima and the hallucination at Lourdes.
I suspect something more sinister than simple hallucination.
A rather detailed hallucination. Did you know what it meant to the Aztecs? I’m thinking not. Details from the image.
1. THE LADY STOOD IN FRONT OF THE SUN .She was greater than the dreaded Huitzilopochtli, their sun-god of war.
2. HER FOOT RESTED ON THE CRESCENT MOON She had clearly crushed Quetzalcoatl, the feathered serpent moon-god
3. THE STARS STREWN ACROSS THE MANTLE She was greater than the stars of heaven which they worshipped. She was a virgin and the Queen of the heavens for Virgo rests over her womb and the northern crown upon her head. She appeared on December 12, 1531 and the stars that she wore are the constellations of the stars that appeared in the sky that day!
4. THE BLUE GREEN HUE OF HER MANTLE She was a Queen because she wears the color of royalty.
5. THE BLACK CROSS ON THE BROOCH AT HER NECK Her God was that of the Spanish Missionaries, Jesus Christ her son
who died on the cross for all mankind.
6. THE BLACK BELT She was with child because she wore the Aztec Maternity Belt.
7. THE FOUR PETAL FLOWER OVER THE WOMB She was the Mother of God because the flower was a special symbol of life, movement and deity-the center of the universe.
8. HER HANDS ARE JOINED IN PRAYER She was not God but clearly there was one greater than Her and she pointed her finger to the cross on her brooch.
9. THE DESIGN ON HER ROSE COLORED GARMENT She is the Queen of the Earth because she is wearing a contour map
of Mexico telling the Indians exactly where the apparition took place.
All this from the imagination of a simple peasant. Were the roses only in his mind as well?
You bother reading this forum thread.........because?
Mat 17:1-8, “And after six days Jesus taketh Peter, James, and John his brother, and bringeth them up into an high mountain apart,and was transfigured before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light. And, behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elias talking with him.
Then answered Peter, and said unto Jesus, Lord, it is good for us to be here: if thou wilt, let us make here three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias. While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him.
And when the disciples heard [it], they fell on their face, and were sore afraid. And Jesus came and touched them, and said, Arise, and be not afraid.
And when they had lifted up their eyes, they saw no man, save Jesus only.”
Let’s just remind everyone that a screen name on an anonymous internet forum doesn’t mean a medical degree or a license to diagnose anything.
Welllllll Dear Sister in Christ, I somewhat agree and somewhat disagree.
Fatima had tangible effects on the environment from the craft and other power and light show stuff engineered by the fallen angels. No hallucination on those scores.
And, there’s every reason to believe that folks saw with their visual receptors what they claimed to see.
However, it is ALSO TRUE that technology exists to cause folks to “see” things that are not there—by-passing their visual receptors and effecting a visual image directly onto the visual cortex of the brain.
Some of the RCC apparition stuff seems to involve tangible impaces on the environment that can be scientifically investigated. I don’t think that’s the critical issue.
The critical issue is whether the SOURCE of such goings on is a deceptive fallen angel/satanic source or from God Almighty and His Holy Spirit.
There’s a starkly clear criteria on that score:
HOLY SPIRIT *ALWAYS* GLORIFIES CHRIST—NEVER ANOTHER mortal or formerly mortal PERSON OR PERSONAGE.
It is the cults who fall for the New Age staged glorifications of all manner of gods, goddesses, Queen of Heaven etc.
NONE of that sort of thing is from Holy Spirit.