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Judith -- remember that the Good Doctor is not a Lutheran. The Lutheran Church is a Christian Church and has Christians (as is true for the Baptists, Anglicans, Methodists and all who believe in Christ and profess the faith as encapsulated in the Nicene Creed).

Dr. E belongs to the OPc, the OrtoPresboC -- this is a cult, a non-Christian cult that pretends to be Christian. The OPC even has a fake website that makes you think that they (like lds.org) are Christian, but they are not.

What is confusing is that the OPC cult brainwashes it's member into pretending to be Protestants (who are Christian) and to keep shouting that "they speak for all Protestants".

They like to hide the fact that their cult of 20,000 and dwindling, following their Prophet Gresham Machen and his new Prophets and Prophetesses were created in the 1930s, have had a few splits since then and now have an ex-Ruling "Elder" who has published quite a few books urging the ones still in the OPC cult to leave it as the OPC (according to him) "preaches the gospel of satan" (It's funny how they can't get it out of their terminiology -- another thread had another OPC cultist claim that the Arminians and Methodists preached the gospel of satan).

The OPC pretends to know the bible and the cultists will recite verses to you, but you should realise that they repeat it over and over again and they do not know the context or the previous rows. This is because they refer to their holey book which consists of excerpts from the Bible (excerpts from Pauline Epistles mostly) -- this book is 14-pages long including colorful pictures to help them and it also has helpful notes by their profit Machen (called "How to hit them Caflicks").

The OPC cultists as you see repeated in their interactions on this forum, do not believe in a Christian God of love, but believe in their hatred which burns in them so much that they have to spread it. They also have a deep inferiority complex, which is boosted up by the OPC's caste system -- the OPC cultist really beliefs that they are upper-caste Brahmins who are predestined to go to heaven, so they can thumb their noses at those predestined to go to heck

One wonders why they persist in calling themselves Christian? I guess it's sheer cussedness mixed with brainwashing.

Is there no end to your calumny!!. You are repeating a scandal which fails to reveal very important facts. But you know this and persist in it. Why? Because of hatred and bigotry and evil intent. This in a Christian??? Here are the facts that you forget. I take that back you have not forgotten but the full truth does not serve your agenda so you leave it out.

Benedict was 14 years of age when he was conscripted into the Hitler Youth. You probably don’t know what conscripted means so I’ll help you out. IT means he was drafted and had no choice. Here is the Wikepedia entry on the subject.

“Following his 14th birthday in 1941, Ratzinger was conscripted into the Hitler Youth — as membership was required by law for all 14-year old German boys after December 1939[9] — but was an unenthusiastic member who refused to attend meetings.[10] His father was an enemy of Nazism, believing it conflicted with the Catholic faith. In 1941, one of Ratzinger’s cousins, a 14-year-old boy with Down syndrome, was taken away by the Nazi regime and killed during the Aktion T4 campaign of Nazi eugenics.[11] In 1943, while still in seminary, he was drafted into the German anti-aircraft corps as Luftwaffenhelfer.[10] Ratzinger then trained in the German infantry, but a subsequent illness precluded him from the usual rigours of military duty[citation needed]. As the Allied front drew closer to his post in 1945, he deserted back to his family’s home in Traunstein after his unit had ceased to exist, just as American troops established their headquarters in the Ratzinger household”

Since you will claim this was all made up in some vast conspiracy of Catholics I include the source material

^ The Third Reich in Power, Richard J Evans, 2005, pg 272
^ a b “New Pope Defied Nazis As Teen During WWII”. Associated Press. USA Today. 23 April 2005. http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2005-04-23-new-pope-defied-Nazis_x.htm. Retrieved 10 July 2009.
^ Allen, John (14 October 2005). “Anti-Nazi Prelate Beatified”. The Word from Rome (National Catholic Reporter). http://www.nationalcatholicreporter.org/word/word101405.htm#five. Retrieved 15 April 2008.