Posted on 12/05/2010 6:14:57 PM PST by RnMomof7
and Pol Pot attended a Catholic college, then straight into Marxism. birds of a feather
There, fixed it for you.
The original post was wrong. The fact is, Hitler rewrote the Bible and replaced God with the state. Progressive/Socialist NAZIs are still trying to do this today.
Sorry Dr E, I gotta call them as I see them.
lol,lol, you and Rnmomof 7 are doomed to be Catholic until the day you die, but the people that they dont want to be aligned with-— out the door, FORMER Catholics, lol, oh that is rich
Shall I FReep mail you the next time I post to ensure it meets with your approval?
As stated earlier, the thief on the cross was not baptized. Baptism is important, but not crucial.
written from my holy water tub
The Catholics are like the evos. Secret little boys club definitions of everything so they can control the discussion and always tell everyone else that they are wrong and they are so ignorant and why don’t they get an education so they know what they’re talking about, and can you believe those ignurint outsiders..... /roll eyes, snicker, high-five each other.....
I am in agreement with Metmom on this. For example, when I go to the hospital for tests, etc., they ask me for my "religion". I always answer, "Christian", though I even am a little resistant to that because I don't believe that Christianity IS a religion. It is actually the very opposite of religion because that word means "to bind back". It refers to man's attempts to bind himself back to God and, as a result, it explains why there are so many different religions in the world. We believe, on the other hand, that it was God himself who binds us back to Him through the free gift of eternal life he has given all by grace through faith.
I believe you nailed it. That’s what happens when you believe your never wrong. Always needing to rationalize and qualify some previous position.
Sure it can be.
The law contained rules and regulations for washings, offerings, ceremonies, hygiene, food preparation, a criminal code, etc. One could follow the letter of the Law and not ever err in keeping the written down instructions and still not be saved because the Law was not established to be a vehicle for salvation. That's why Jesus said that one's righteousness had to exceed that of the Scribes and Pharisees.
They kept the letter of the Law, thinking that in it they had eternal life. They didn't keep the spirit of the Law, which is what the Law was really about.
In which case, they didn't keep it "blamelessly," which is what you claimed. "Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with thy whole heart and with thy whole soul and with thy whole mind and with thy whole strength" is part of the Law too.
Philippians 3:4b-6 If anyone else thinks he has reason for confidence in the flesh, I have more: circumcised on the eighth day, of the people of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of Hebrews; as to the law, a Pharisee; as to zeal, a persecutor of the church; as to righteousness under the law, blameless.
Are you going to tell us now that Paul lied?
I do not think you understood the discussion or the question
Sure it can be.
Luke 11:42-53
Woe to you Pharisees, because you give God a tenth of your mint, rue and all other kinds of garden herbs, but you neglect justice and the love of God. You should have practiced the latter without leaving the former undone.
Woe to you Pharisees, because you love the most important seats in the synagogues and respectful greetings in the marketplaces.
Woe to you, because you are like unmarked graves, which people walk over without knowing it.
One of the experts in the law answered him, Teacher, when you say these things, you insult us also.
Jesus replied, And you experts in the law, woe to you, because you load people down with burdens they can hardly carry, and you yourselves will not lift one finger to help them.
Woe to you, because you build tombs for the prophets, and it was your ancestors who killed them. So you testify that you approve of what your ancestors did; they killed the prophets, and you build their tombs. Because of this, God in his wisdom said, I will send them prophets and apostles, some of whom they will kill and others they will persecute. Therefore this generation will be held responsible for the blood of all the prophets that has been shed since the beginning of the world, from the blood of Abel to the blood of Zechariah, who was killed between the altar and the sanctuary. Yes, I tell you, this generation will be held responsible for it all.
Woe to you experts in the law, because you have taken away the key to knowledge. You yourselves have not entered, and you have hindered those who were entering.
When Jesus went outside, the Pharisees and the teachers of the law began to oppose him fiercely and to besiege him with questions, waiting to catch him in something he might say.
It’s somewhat amusing that the Catholic church didn’t ex-communicate them and the excuse is that they ex-communicated themselves.
It kind of absolves the RCC from actually taking responsibility for the action. They could have done it anyway. They SHOULD HAVE done it anyway.
Otherwise, it demonstrates the same lack of moral fiber that they’ve been displaying for years now in regards to dealing with the pedophile priests and abortion supporting leftist politicians.
That way, they can wash their hands of the matter and not have to deal with the unpleasantness of actually making a statement or take a stand. All it does is demonstrate weakness on the part of the Catholic church..
In a church I once attended, a member’s name was removed from the membership list because of adultery. Now, anticipating this, the person quit the church before the action was taken, but the pastor and elders took the action officially anyway on principle. They wanted it on record that this action was taken against that person so that there would be no question about their position.
Cronos...Seems to me you’re on an uneasy role with your posts which can generally be informative even if others disagree...or at least debated. But this “stuff” going on now is just plain foolish and unproductive. Why get yourself in such a tissy? It accomplishes nothing at all and certainly doesn’t honor Christ...so why give place to this tit-for tat non-sense? You’ve forgotten yourself...so put your mind back in place so the debate can continue...and I say this respectfully Cronos....deal with the facts..you always do better by far than this stuff.
I would eliminate the baptism mandate , but you are the first to come close... What do we have to believe about Him Wag? I think THAT is the key :)
However, we must also follow His commandment to love one another.
Actually this is law and not grace.. the law is do, the gospel is done.. We keep His commandments not to be saved, but because we are saved.
I guess I do not understand the distinction between their decision to leave the catholic church and say mine..
Yes, metmom, et al, give them/inquisitors your "false prophets/pastors who lead you to perdition". I'm sure they will be treated with the utmost respect and will be allowed to personally confess their blasphemy and repent of their sins of coercion. And if they do not, then they will be allowed to bribe their inquisitors so that they can be provided with a sack of gunpowder to hang around their necks when they are tied to the stake and before the fire is started./sarc off
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