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To: Belteshazzar
when man ventures into the unknown that lies beyond the powers of our senses and the deductions we have built on them, i.e., the empirical world, one enters the realm of the truly unknown in which God alone knows. Some of this unknown realm He has revealed to us and some of it He hasn’t.

Indeed. That's why Christ built a Church, even though He never wrote a book. He needed a Church here on earth to pass on the revealed Truths to His children, so He built a Church, gave it authority that is would never be overcome, and sent it His Holy Spirit to guide it to all Truth.

Sola scriptura is an anti-scriptural heresy; Scriture and Tradition together, in the context of a Church Christ built and to which He gave authority in Heaven and on earth, to lose and to bind, against which the gates of hell would never prevail, that is eminently scriptural.

And I'll take the Word of that Church over these sola scriptura heretics any day.

And that Church teaches the communion of the saints, as taught by Christ and handed down by the Apostles and His Church. I have complete confidence in this Truth, and no reason to doubt it. The attacks of these sola scriptura pundits just make my confidence that much stronger, because satan knows the right address; attacking the body of Christ, including the communion of saints, is an attack on Christ Himself.

152 posted on 12/04/2010 1:06:53 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM (Liberalism is infecund.)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

“The attacks of these sola scriptura pundits just make my confidence that much stronger, because satan knows the right address; attacking the body of Christ, including the communion of saints, is an attack on Christ Himself.”

And the Father of Lies uses LIES to do so, as we can see right here. Vicar. Snort.


154 posted on 12/04/2010 1:11:22 PM PST by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

Well, DBK, speaking as one those “sola scriptura heretics/pundits,” for which kindly-intended appellation thank you very much, I can see we’ll have to disagree before we’ve really begun. So be it. Your choice.

I’ll just leave you with this. Since you are presumably a man of science according to your chosen FR title, you know how so often the devil is in the details. Here is the sentence (and by that I mean the 2nd one of the two following) you wrote within which are the details that really do need to be examined: “That’s why Christ built a Church, even though He never wrote a book. He needed a Church here on earth to pass on the revealed Truths to His children, so He built a Church, gave it authority that is would never be overcome, and sent it His Holy Spirit to guide it to all Truth.”

“That’s why ...” I’ve always been leery of what follows statements that begin with, “That’s why ...” Deduction upon deduction upon deduction often ends up in a place no one really expected or intended to go.

I have no confidence in your deductions upon deductions. The heart, mind, and motives of man are never to be trusted, only the heart, mind, and motives of the Son of Man and Son of God. I have His words in the Holy Scriptures while at the same time I see the words of the church you claim handed down His truth to us. The plain sense of the two sets of words often differ. Somewhere in the details of those differences lies the devil, who doesn’t even need an address to find his prey.

Finally, you say:
“... attacking the body of Christ, including the communion of saints, is an attack on Christ Himself.”

I agree. And the devil is here in the details as well. I will choose to err on the side of generosity in my assumptions of just who is and who isn’t part of the “body of Christ.” And for that, I have awfully solid substantiation from OT and NT. But I think you know that.

Good day to you, sir.


173 posted on 12/04/2010 1:55:08 PM PST by Belteshazzar
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