Posted on 10/08/2010 7:39:20 AM PDT by marshmallow
Rick Warren will speak at the Desiring God national conference – connected to Pastor John Piper – Friday amid some criticism of his theology.
Some supporters of the Desiring God ministry had complained that Warren relies more on pragmatism than biblical doctrine – in other words, that he relies more on methods than on God to achieve results.
But Piper defended his decision to invite Warren to the annual conference. In a video, Piper listed Warren’s shared beliefs, including that the Bible is totally inerrant, God is sovereign over everything and that people who do not believe in Jesus Christ as their savior will go to hell.
Warren also memorizes scripture every week, plants a church every year, rejects the prosperity gospel, and believes the only way to change the world is to change people’s hearts through Jesus.
“I’m going to need help to know why you feel bad about this decision,” said Piper in a video addressing people’s concerns about his invitation to Warren.
He stated that Warren is on the same page with the central tenets of the faith.
“I’m not going to push somebody like that away when he has so much to offer,” stated Piper.
Piper also complimented Warren for how he leads Saddleback Church in Southern California.
“I think here he just puts me to shame with his aggressively, in-your-life, transformative discipling of his church,” Piper said.
“They have membership covenants and it’s really rigorous,” he noted, pointing out that there is no such thing as an inactive membership at Saddleback Church.
The Minnesota pastor is still on his eight-month leave of absence and this conference is one of the few speaking engagements he has scheduled. In May, he took his first leave of absence from ministry and his church, Bethlehem Baptist Church in Minneapolis, to examine his soul and focus on his family. He said his break was prompted by “ongoing character flaws” – including pride – and the stresses they have caused to others.
Watch out boys (and gals).........you've been guarding the front door against Catholics and Warren walked in the back!
that’s good news. that was probably my favorite comic strip back in the early 90’s.
Amen!! Rick Warren is a FRAUD!!
This should be fun.
Not that whatever he says is going to make any difference anyway. :)
After all, it was predestined.
Rick Warren will speak at the Desiring God national conference – connected to Pastor John Piper – Friday amid some criticism of his theology.
Old news. Did speak. It's out there now, and it's awful. Gospelless platitudes. He actually comes out and says the churches teach people too much. "Oh really?"
Chris Rosebrough's Fighting for the Faith program played it in toto, and reviewed it (here).
See also James White's comments (on someone else's radio program) here. You want to know my reaction -- "what James White said!"
You worship a tiny and impotent God, mocker.
I'm not a big fan of megachurches for that reason-- they are businesses which have to please their customers to grow and even to survive.
That's not necessarily a bad thing. In fact, it is a good thing when you are selling hamburgers or paper clips. But it can lead to real conflicts in the church when God's word is in conflict with what happens to be popular at the time.
And it isn't just a problem with megachurches. It just happens to be more visible there.
Wow did Rick become a Christian? Must have been after he wrote his last book.
"The PDL movement will end up producing "burnt over districts" of ex-believers who thought there was more to Christianity, and were led astray by Warren and his PDL. If there was "deeper" meaning and material for new converts, I'd think Warren would use the profits from PDL to publish it, or at least promote it. From what I've seen in his books and on Saddleback's website, I don't Warren has any idea how to transition a milk drinker into a meat eater."
-- Alex Murphy, October 10, 2005
"... it's quite a statement about one's priorities (and discernment) that so many previously refused to abandon Warren when he was promoting bad theology and lousy exegesis - and so many have withdrawn support from the good ship Saddleback, now that Warren is out promoting politically/socially liberal causes and personalities."
-- Alex Murphy, November 21, 2006
"Evangelicals are often equated with fundamentalists or the religious right, which annoys Warren. Although he's politically conservative - opposing abortion and gay marriage and supporting the death penalty - he pushes a much broader agenda and disdains both politics and fundamentalism....Warren predicts that fundamentalism, of all varieties, will be "one of the big enemies of the 21st century.""
-- The purpose-driven pastor (Rick Warren calls Christian fundamentalists an enemy)
"The evangelical movement has been confused with both the religious right and fundamentalism, which it is not. I'm not a fundamentalist, and I'm not part of the religious right."
-- Rick Warren in his own words
That was also predestined.
James White responds: http://nocompromiseradio.com/podcastupload/?p=episode&name=2010-10-07_nc10-07-10.mp3
Thanks for linking to them.. I did not want to have to hunt up the links
Piper took his 6 month sabbatical after asking Warren ...I had to wonder if he felt that he was becoming guilty of the sin of pride..
It is a false statment by you to say these doctrines are a piece of wood burning when thrown into a bonfire. Catholic legalism doctrine will be wood burning in a bonfire of Purgatory (i.e., Hell).
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