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To: CommerceComet
Take up with Jesus Christ who said this:

Um... Even in your example of why you should be judging us, Jesus is doing the judging... Just sayin'...

I have never appointed myself your judge. Besides I have never judged you as a person, I judged your doctrine. My statement didn't even refer to you personally.

Since "Orthodox Christianity" has no path for me to salvation if my religion is false, then by declaring it so, you have judged me.

I simply stated that the Christian Community doesn't view Mormons as part of their rank. That is an objective fact whether you agree with the evaluation or not.

Jesus was not exactly welcomed by the Sanhedrin, you know, the Authority of his day. It didn't make him wrong then, it doesn't make us wrong now. It does make you a populist for bringing it up as an argument.

Since Jesus Christ is your judge, then why do you even care what I think?

Because you post here to influence others, and I cannot let the lies and misrepresentations posted by some antis go without at least a modest challenge so that those who are reading will have the opportunity to learn and decide for themselves.

Didn't your just judge me? Just pointing that out because I really don't care what you think of me.

No, I did not judge you, I cautioned you against fighting against God. It's a good warning, one every anti of every religion should heed.

No one is beng personally judged on this thread.

Yet another opinion stated as fact...

So give the whiny "you're not my judge" line a rest. Your hyper-sensitivity makes discussing issues difficult.

I am really sorry my opposition to and pointing out of the effects of your arguments makes your assassination of my religion difficult...</Sarc>

Logic is not whiny, whining about someone else making your argument difficult is.

God bless and keep you.

Delph
728 posted on 10/04/2010 10:28:28 PM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: DelphiUser
Um... Even in your example of why you should be judging us, Jesus is doing the judging... Just sayin'...

Once again, you're missing the point. Jesus told some who called Him Lord and apparently performed acts in His name, workers of inquity. People can be sincerely wrong but wrong nonetheless.

Since "Orthodox Christianity" has no path for me to salvation if my religion is false, then by declaring it so, you have judged me.

Again, I only judge your doctrine. I don't know you personally nor could I ever know definitely what's in your heart, so how could I judge you personally?

Jesus was not exactly welcomed by the Sanhedrin, you know, the Authority of his day. It didn't make him wrong then, it doesn't make us wrong now.

As a self-proclaimed logician, you know that proves absolutely nothing. The actions of the Sanhedrin have no bearing on whether the Christian Community is correct in its opinion about Mormonism.

It does make you a populist for bringing it up as an argument.

So how can I state an objective fact about a consensus opinion without you claiming that I'm a populist? As a logician, you know that simiply raising an argument which could labeled as populist doesn't make a person a populist.

Because you post here to influence others, and I cannot let the lies and misrepresentations posted by some antis go without at least a modest challenge so that those who are reading will have the opportunity to learn and decide for themselves.

Fine, it is the purpose of the forum to discuss ISSUES. Stop personalizing everything. Do you have liberal friends? I assume you do. When you disagree with their political views which are often based on deeply-held philosophical (and sometimes religious) views, are you condemning them? It's the same principle here: we are disagreeing about validity of the ideas, not condemning the person who holds the view. As a logician, that should not a difficult distinction for you to grasp.

No, I did not judge you, I cautioned you against fighting against God. It's a good warning, one every anti of every religion should heed.

So this is okay? However, it's not okay for people to warn about Mormon doctrine? To do so, is personally judging you? You'll have to draw on all your powers as a logician to explain away that inconsistency.

Yet another opinion stated as fact...

So where is your evidence to the contrary? It's your ideas that we have been debating. You were called a "fool" based on the quality of your ideas and argumentation. A word that Bible doesn't prohibit being used but warns that it is to be done with reasonable grounds.

I am really sorry my opposition to and pointing out of the effects of your arguments makes your assassination of my religion difficult...(/Sarc)

Yes, everyone's been really impressed by the quality of your argumentation....(/Sarc)

Logic is not whiny....

Yet, your posts are. "You're not my judge" is a whine. It doesn't answer the objections to Mormon doctrine that were raised. It is often used as a ploy (as are all forms of defensiveness) to make the debate opponent uncomfortable while not addressing the point. But as a logician, you already know that.

, whining about someone else making your argument difficult is

Then prepare to call me a whiner a lot because every time you personalize an issue, I'll call you on it. Stick to the issues like the great logician you claim that you are.

743 posted on 10/05/2010 9:48:45 AM PDT by CommerceComet
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