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Sins Against the Holy Spirit [Catholic/Orthodox Caucus]
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Posted on 08/31/2010 5:32:10 PM PDT by Salvation

Sins Against the Holy Spirit

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The following words of Our Lord show how grievous are sins against the Holy Ghost: "Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven men, but the blasphemy of the Spirit shall not be forgiven."

The sins against the Holy Ghost are commonly said to be six in number: despair, presumption, impenitence, obstinacy, resisting truth, and envy of another's spiritual welfare.

Some of these are less difficult of pardon than others. Final impenitence is absolutely unpardonable. Those, too, who from deliberate malice refuse to recognize the work of God, as the Pharisees did when they saw the miracles of Our Lord and attributed them to Beelzebub, the Prince of Devils are unpardonable.

Those who reject deliberately the means of salvation are also rarely pardoned.

The difficulty in obtaining pardon for these sins is clearly caused by the sinner himself, who rejects God's grace.

Deliberate and habitual sins, sins against the light of truth, offend God more gravely than sins due to weakness and ignorance.

The Great Sin Against the Holy Ghost
and its Punishment

The fall of Constantinople and its destruction is a striking example of the awful punishment meted out by God to those who sin against the Holy Spirit.

The Greeks, led by their Patriarchs Photius and Cerularius, denied the divinity of the Holy Ghost and, after apparently renouncing their error, fell back into the same sin. They were threatened by Pope Nicholas V with God's anger if they did not repent. This they obstinately refused to do.

Three years later, in 1453, Mahomet II, at the head of a formidable Moslem army, surrounded the city and after fierce fighting defeated the Greeks and captured Constantinople--this, on the very feast of the Holy Ghost. Fearful massacres, pillage and fires lasted three whole days, reducing the inhabitants to an awful plight. Mahomet, on the fourth day, entered the city, took possession of the Imperial Palace and turned the cathedral into a mosque. Constantinople has since then lain under the yoke of the Turks for over 500 years.

What about Ourselves?

Do we offend the Holy Ghost? Do we sin against the Holy Ghost?

Let us hope that we never sin as gravely as those who do not deserve pardon, but perhaps for want of thought we offend our Divine Guest by lesser sins.

The Holy Ghost loves us with an infinitely tender and divine love. He loves us so dearly that He actually comes and remains in our souls. We are, therefore, bound to return this Divine love.

Do we do so, or, like so many faithless ones, do we forget Him, abandon Him and pay no heed to Him?

Or worse still, do we dare offend Him to His very face? If so, we must earnestly try to correct these faults. Here are some useful suggestions:

A pagan philosopher gave this wise advice to a disciple who asked him how best he could correct his faults: "Think," answered Seneca, "that you are in the company of a good man who sees what you are doing and hears what you say. Do nothing that you would not do in his presence." Following this counsel, the disciple soon corrected his faults.

St. Bernard gave similar advice to his monks, "Do nothing," he said to them, "that you would not do if I were present."

No thief, however daring he may be, will steal if he sees a policeman looking at him.

If then we realize that the Holy Ghost Himself is really and truly with us and sees all we do, it will be a powerful incentive to avoid offending Him.

--Fr. Paul O'Sullivan, OP
"The Holy Ghost Our Greatest Friend: He Who Loves Us Best"
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I have reflected at length about why these particular sins are unforgiveable, and asking the Holy Spirit's guidance in clarification of the Scripture, "Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven men, but the blasphemy of the Spirit shall not be forgiven." Several things have come to mind regarding each one of the 6 sins: despair, presumption, impenitence, obstinacy, resisting truth, and envy of another's spiritual welfare.

Let's take each one at a time and really analyze what it is, what it means, and how it can seal our fate for eternity.

DESPAIR

When a person is in real despair, he is totally convinced of his unworthiness and has no hope whatsoever. Every effort to change his emotions or situation ceases. The person becomes devoid of the feelings of love--love from others, love from self, and love from God. Please do not confuse "depression" with despair. There is a major difference: you have a loss of LOVE with despair that is not associated with depression. Depression can be clinical--due to emotional stresses or physical imbalances. Despair is not a sadness but rather an intense void, where you are convinced that God has abandoned you, that He doesn't love you anymore and no one does, that even you believe that you have no worth whatsoever as a child of God.

The Random House College Dictionary defines despair as: "loss of hope; hopelessness; to lose, give up, or be without hope". They also define depression as: "dejection; sadness; gloom; downcast; lowered spirits; lower in force, vigor or activity".

I personally think that people use words such as "sad" or "depressed" or "despairing" interchangeably, and they should not be. While the actual definitions of the words have not changed, their connotations have over time. How many times have you heard yourself or others say that they are giving up? Or that God's forgotten them? Or that there's no hope? Usually, we are just venting our frustrations, and most of us pull ourselves out of these feelings with or without help from others or God. And I don't believe that this is the type of DESPAIR that is the unforgiveable sin against the Holy Spirit.

Above all else, God wants us to come to Him and ask for forgiveness, accept His forgiveness, and make every effort to not sin again. When a person is in real despair, they do not go to God for forgiveness. They do not believe that God will forgive them. If they died in a state of true despair, God would want to forgive them if they would just ask Him for it. But they won't, and that is what condemns them. Even if He would forgive the person in true despair without the person asking for His mercy, he would reject His forgiveness because he believes himself too unworthy. This would condemn him. If God would open His pearly gates to welcome this true despairer, he would walk away and reject Paradise.

All of us at some time or another gets frustrated and loses hope in different circumstances. This is a human weakness, and we usually get through it, past it, and return to living our lives. People in despair remain there without hope, rejecting any love, reward, forgiveness, and self-worth.

One last note: Desperation is also not true despair.

PRESUMPTION

This is probably the most confusing to most of us as Catholics because it involves the "once saved, always saved" belief of fundamentalist Christians. We can have friends or acquaintenances who claim to be saved, but they go about their business doing as they please and assume that they will be forgiven by God without asking for His mercy and or mending their sinful ways. They assume that they have a seat in heaven regardless of their actions. Most of the friends I have here (I'm deep in the Bible Belt) are fundamentalist Christians, and what I understand about that is if a person is truly "saved," he receives Jesus Christ into his heart and accepts Him as his personal Lord and Saviour--AND a change of heart is supposed to take place and their lives are changed forever to the extent that they attempt to sin no more against God.

This is a foreign concept--in a way-- to Catholics, but if you really think about our faith, we believe also that Jesus Christ is Our Lord and Saviour--for each of us personally and collectively; we believe that we are changed by His grace through the Sacraments; we believe that we must back up our proclaimed faith not by mere words, but also by our actions on a daily basis. We just don't use the term "saved" because it presupposes our destinies.

Assuming will get you into big trouble. If you presume or assume, you may become lax in your actions. Be careful of this. We are all human beings, and as such, are subject to weakness. There were only 2 people on this earth who were perfect: Jesus Christ Himself, as God, unbegotten, not made; and the Blessed Mother Mary, conceived without sin, a creature, created as a child of God by God. The rest of us have to continue to try hard to keep our weaknesses from overtaking us. Be alert. Do not presume.

Presumption goes further than just assuming that you are going to heaven because one day you proclaimed that you are "saved." It also means that you presume God's forgiveness without bothering to ask Him for it. We HAVE TO approach Him. We have to be contrite and have true remorse for our sins. We have to attempt to live by His Commandments and sin no more. That is one reason why it is a good idea to do a nightly examination of conscience and make a sincere act of contrition before you go to sleep. You never know what will happen the next day. I'm not saying that any venial sin committed after your last confession or act of contrition before you die is not forgiven. God knows your heart and your intentions. He knows the kind of life you've led. He also knows how often you go to Him for forgiveness, either in the confessional or privately. He knows that if you die before you seek His forgiveness, that you would have come to Him if given more time. So, don't get paranoid about this, but just remember that you must regularly come to Him with a contrite heart and the resolution to do better. And then, you must believe He forgives you and accept His forgiveness.

For you to be condemned by the sin of presumption, you never bother to seek the Lord's forgiveness, as if it is not necessary.

IMPENITENCE

Impenitence basically means you aren't sorry for what you've done wrong. How many times have you heard someone say that they weren't sorry for doing something to another person, that they deserved it? Or if they had a chance, they'd do it again? What about those who habitually commit the same sin over and over, knowing it's wrong, but they're unwilling to stop their behavior?

I once asked my pastor if there were ever any sins he heard in the confessional that he wouldn't forgive, and he told me that there was only one: if a person comes to confession regularly (like weekly) and he remembers that a specific sin is always confessed each time by this person, it becomes obvious to the priest that the person is not truly sorry for this sin, nor does he intend to avoid committing it again. My pastor explained that he's only had to do this very few times in his long years as a priest, but he has told the "penitent" that this one sin would not be forgiven until he changed his ways.

We believe as Catholics that in order to enter heaven, we must be pure, without a stain of sin on our souls. Our hearts must also be pure--intent is everything. Impenitence is an offspring of pride. If we become so full of ourselves that we elevate our status so high we don't need to ask God for forgiveness, justifying everything we do wrong or even delighting in it, then we have almost set ourselves up as His equals. It comes dangerously close to breaking the first Commandment. Be careful that you do not fall into this trap.

Make a good examination of conscience, thinking over not only your actions, but how you feel about them. If you realize that you have feelings of delight at another's misfortune because of something you did or said, try to change your heart and ask for God's forgiveness. The first step in avoiding this sin is to become AWARE. And remember that our justifications to ourselves about our behavior sets us up personally as judge and jury before God, making Him lesser than ourselves.

OBSTINACY

Obstinacy is very close kin to impenitence. It also places yourself above God in the role of judge. It breaks the first commandment. When you are obstinant, you don't care if your actions or words hurt God or anyone else, you just continue with your own bad behavior. It is being stubborn. You adhere to your own justified ideas about right and wrong, disregarding God's commandments and His justice. You become unyielding. If you are in a state of obstinacy and you died, you would probably argue with God that He is wrong and you are right!

Have you ever tried to carry on a conversation with another person who just won't listen to what you have to say, regardless of the facts you present? Are they determined to hold on to their opinion, no matter how false or ridiculous it is? Can they actually justify their opinion, twisting things around so it sounds like they are right? This is the devil's work. Nothing delights Satan more than a person who changes the rules for his own benefit, defying God, and throwing it in His face!

Or, do you have the opinion that "I'll believe it when I see it," and expect that until there's scientific proof of something, you HAVE to be right? Where's the faith here? Why do we feel like we deserve proof for everything? Why do we feel we must have an explanation for everything? Just having these thoughts about science or math or earthly things isn't always bad--that's not what I'm saying. But having these opinions about faith, spiritual matters, and God is dangerous to our souls.

Remember that your opinion is only that--an OPINION. Opinions do not change FACTS. If you decided one day that rain was dry and you really believed that, it wouldn't change the texture of rain, would it? Rain is always going to be wet. Facts are facts, and opinions are opinions. In the same way, God's laws are God's laws, and nothing we can decide about them will change them. Keeping our heads in the sand and thinking that our circumstances are somehow different, so we can continue to behave as we please is just being blind to the truth. It isn't a smart thing to do, and it won't get us into heaven.

Make a good examination of conscience, reflecting on our actions. Think about what we've been taught by the Church and the Bible regarding right and wrong. Do you justify your actions even though you know it breaks one of God's Commandments? Are you determined to continue with that behavior? Do you not care that it hurts God? Change your thinking; change your heart; change your life; and, seek His forgiveness.

RESISTING TRUTH

This resistance to the Truth follows obstinacy around! Have you heard the Word of God and rejected it because it suited your purposes to do so? Do you pick which of His laws you will keep and which you will break? Do you do it intentionally?

Do you close your heart off so the Holy Spirit can't work in you? Do you put up walls around yourself and not let God into your life and heart? Are you more content to stay uninformed so you have an excuse for your behavior? Do you avoid religious conversation, Church services, or learning about your faith and the laws of God as set forth in the Bible?

Resisting truth is the same thing as resisting God Himself. How could you ever expect to get any reward in the afterlife if you avoid or resist Him? God must be in our hearts, our minds, and our souls for us to enter Paradise. A lack of God in us will surely get us a one way ticket to hell.

We all know about missionaries and their work. We have all heard evangelists spreading God's Word. Do we disregard all this and decide for ourselves that God doesn't even exist, like atheists do? Is life easier without having more rules to live by? After all, there are already so many civil laws that inhibit our freedoms, why would we go out of our way to add more? Staying in the dark will be rewarded with darkness.

ENVY OF ANOTHER'S SPIRITUAL WELFARE

Envy is one of the 7 deadly sins. Most of us can name off at least 6 out of the 7, if not all 7. They are famous for a good reason. Almost all sin spring from these cardinal sins.

What I do not understand is: why would someone be jealous of another person's goodness? Why would we ever be envious of Mother Teresa, for example? Is it so we could become famous? Or admired? Have followers who dote on our every word?

Catholics do venerate the lives of the saints because they are great role models for our own lives. Many saints have been great sinners and turned their lives around toward God. Many saints have had physical or emotional sufferings that they bore with patience and love for God. These people give us hope for our own lives. The sin of envy of another's spiritual welfare involves much more than mere admiration of another good person. It means that you wish that it were YOU who led that life and had that goodness in YOU, and the other person did not! Or it means that you are so envious that you wish they didn't have that goodness about them, whether you did or not!

Envy involves the taking away from another individual whatever belongs to them. It isn't just the desire to emulate them. Most of us won't have this sin to account for before God. Most of us are genuinely happy for the other person who lives a saintly life and only hope that we can attain some small part of that goodness, too.

Jesus told us that the 2nd greatest Commandment was to love one another as yourself. He didn't say "instead of yourself" or "only yourself." Being so envious of another's spiritual state that we wish they didn't have it, is like you condemning them to hell. It is a desire to steal from another for your own gain.

Have you ever heard of murderers in the news or even in the movies or books who comment, "If I can't have you, no one will"? What if we just wished the other person wasn't saintly, regardless of whether we could get that good for ourselves?

As I said before, I don't think this is a very common sin against the Holy Spirit. I don't think that just calling someone a "goody goody" when we were kids is what God defines as a sin that won't be forgiven. Of course, it is cruel, but it isn't the same thing. This sin is another offspring of the deadly sin of pride. What it really boils down to is our own inflated sense of self, that somehow we are more deserving than another. After all, if we would all change our hearts and our actions and allow the Holy Spirit to work through us, we could attain the same saintly spiritual state as any person in heaven. It truly is up to us to follow God's Will. There is no way to get it easily, and it can't be robbed from another person. We condemn ourselves by our own lack of action to change our ways, and our desire to harm another spiritually.

IN SUMMARY:

The 6 sins against the Holy Spirit have one thing in common: We judge ourselves, taking the supreme authority from God. When we commit one of these grievous sins, we refuse God's love and forgiveness. These sins are all made by our own choosing to commit them. They are all intentional.

Pride, Avarice, Sloth, and Envy all contribute to them. I suggest you take each one of the 7 deadly sins and the 10 Commandments, and use them to do your examination of conscience before confession or before making your acts of contrition, asking God for His mercy and forgiveness, and His love to enter our hearts and lives.



TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Prayer; Theology
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Today's First Reading prompts me to post this today.

Tuesday of the Twenty-second Week in Ordinary Time


Reading 1

1 Cor 2:10b-16

Brothers and sisters:
The Spirit scrutinizes everything, even the depths of God.
Among men, who knows what pertains to the man
except his spirit that is within?
Similarly, no one knows what pertains to God except the Spirit of God.
We have not received the spirit of the world
but the Spirit who is from God,
so that we may understand the things freely given us by God.
And we speak about them not with words taught by human wisdom,
but with words taught by the Spirit,
describing spiritual realities in spiritual terms.

Now the natural man does not accept what pertains to the Spirit of God,
for to him it is foolishness, and he cannot understand it,
because it is judged spiritually.
The one who is spiritual, however, can judge everything
but is not subject to judgment by anyone.

For “who has known the mind of the Lord, so as to counsel him?”
But we have the mind of Christ.


1 posted on 08/31/2010 5:32:13 PM PDT by Salvation
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2 posted on 08/31/2010 5:34:51 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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This may be of interest to you.


3 posted on 08/31/2010 5:35:31 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Some questions came up on this thread.

Lists Every Catholic Should be Familiar With: The 6 Sins against the Holy Ghost (Holy Spirit)

4 posted on 08/31/2010 5:38:30 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

“First then it were well to listen to the very words: “All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men; but the blasphemy of the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto them. And whosoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whosoever speaks against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.”

What now is it that He affirms? Many things have ye spoken against me; that I am a deceiver, an adversary of God. These things I forgive you on your repentance, and exact no penalty of you; but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven, no, not to those who repent. And how can this be right? For even this was forgiven upon repentance. Many at least of those who said these words believed afterward, and all was forgiven them. What is it then that He says? That this sin is above all things unpardonable. Why so? Because Himself indeed they knew not, who He might be, but of the Spirit they received ample experience. For the prophets also by the Spirit said whatever they said; and indeed all in the Old Testament had a very high notion of Him.

What He says, then, is this: Be it so: you are offended at me, because of the flesh with which I am encompassed: can you say of the Spirit also, We know it not? And therefore is your blasphemy unpardonable, and both here and hereafter shall you suffer punishment. For many indeed have been punished here only (as he who had committed fornication,as they who partook unworthily of the mysteries,amongst the Corinthians); but ye, both here and hereafter.

Now as to your blasphemies against me, before the cross, I forgive them: and the daring crime too of the cross itself; neither shall you be condemned for your unbelief alone. (For neither had they, that believed before the cross, perfect faith. And on many occasions He even charges them to make Him known to no man before the Passion; and on the cross He said that this sin was forgiven them.) But as to your words touching the Spirit, they will have no excuse. For in proof that He is speaking of what was said of Him before the crucifixion, He added, “Whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whosoever shall speak against the Holy Ghost,” there is no more forgiveness. Wherefore? Because this is known to you; and the truths are notorious which you harden yourselves against. For though ye say that you know not me; yet of this surely you are not ignorant, that to cast out devils, and to do cures, is a work of the Holy Ghost. It is not then I only whom you are insulting, but the Holy Ghost also. Wherefore your punishment can be averted by no prayers, neither here nor there.” +John Chrysostomos Homily XLI on +Matthew


5 posted on 08/31/2010 6:24:01 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Salvation

Each of these sins messes with the Sacramental life. Make sure to include them in your examination of conscience—your eternal soul may depend on it! Note that most of these sins will of their nature resist the exam.


6 posted on 08/31/2010 9:05:28 PM PDT by cmj328 (Massachusetts Lt. Gov: Write In "Keith Davis, 9 Pheasant Dr., Holyoke" - writeinkeithdavis.com)
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"The Greeks, led by their Patriarchs Photius and Cerularius, denied the divinity of the Holy Ghost and, after apparently renouncing their error, fell back into the same sin. They were threatened by Pope Nicholas V with God's anger if they did not repent. This they obstinately refused to do.

Three years later, in 1453, Mahomet II, at the head of a formidable Moslem army, surrounded the city and after fierce fighting defeated the Greeks and captured Constantinople--this, on the very feast of the Holy Ghost. Fearful massacres, pillage and fires lasted three whole days, reducing the inhabitants to an awful plight. Mahomet, on the fourth day, entered the city, took possession of the Imperial Palace and turned the cathedral into a mosque. Constantinople has since then lain under the yoke of the Turks for over 500 years."

Some Story.

7 posted on 08/31/2010 9:07:39 PM PDT by johngrace (God so loved the world so he gave his only son! Praise Jesus and Hail Mary!)
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**I suggest you take each one of the 7 deadly sins and the 10 Commandments, and use them to do your examination of conscience before confession or before making your acts of contrition, asking God for His mercy and forgiveness, and His love to enter our hearts and lives.**

Prayer to be Freed of the Seven Deadly Sins
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"Care for an Entrée With Your Entrée?" Gluttony, the Forgotten Sin

Seven Deadly Sins: Sloth or 'Acedia'
Seven deadly sins alive and well today, says Jesuit journal
The Virtue-Driven Life
The Virtues (counteracting the REAL Seven Deadly Sins)
What are Capital Sins? [Seven Deadly Sins]

Satan's Arsenal: "The Seven Deadly Sins"
The Anatomy of Envy

8 posted on 08/31/2010 9:32:58 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Lists Every Catholic Should be Familiar With: The 10 Commandments
The Catholic Church Changed The Ten Commandments? [Ecumenical]

The Essentials of the Catholic Faith, Part Three: The Will of God, Christian Morality
The Essentials of the Catholic Faith, Part Three: The Will of God, The Ten Commandments
The Essentials of the Catholic Faith, Part Three: The Will of God, First Commandment
The Essentials of the Catholic Faith, Part Three: The Will of God, Second Commandment
The Essentials of the Catholic Faith, Part Three: The Will of God, Third Commandment
The Essentials of the Catholic Faith, Part Three: The Will of God, Fourth Commandment
The Essentials of the Catholic Faith, Part Three: The Will of God, Fifth Commandment
The Essentials of the Catholic Faith, Part Three: The Will of God, Sixth and Ninth Commandments
The Essentials of the Catholic Faith, Part Three: The Will of God, Seventh and Tenth Commandments
The Essentials of the Catholic Faith; Part Three: The Will of God, Eighth Commandment

Catechism of Aquinas |SUMMARY OF THE TEN COMMANDMENTS| THE OUR FATHER & FIVE QUALITIES OF PRAYER
A Brief Catechism for Adults - Lesson 34: The First Commandment
A Brief Catechism for Adults - Lesson 35: The Second Commandment
A Brief Catechism for Adults - Lesson 36: The Third Commandment
A Brief Catechism for Adults - Lesson 37: The Fourth Commandment
A Brief Catechism for Adults - Lesson 38: The Fifth Commandment (w / special prayer request)
A Brief Catechism for Adults - Lesson 39: The Sixth and Ninth Commandments
A Brief Catechism for Adults - Lesson 40: The Seventh and Tenth Commandments
A Brief Catechism for Adulst - Lesson 41: The Eighth Commandment

9 posted on 08/31/2010 9:33:48 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

I saw a very good example of spiritual envy yesterday when watching “Song of Bernadette.”

When Bernadette entered the convent, there was the nun who had disbelieved her as a child. She was the novice mistress and did everything possible to “correct” what she saw as Bernadette’s pride, even going so far as to insist that she change her name when entering the convent. When Bernadette started limping, Sr. went to her cell to berate her for “drawing attention to herself.” She then went into a tirade saying that she just could not believe that Bernadette had been favored with the grace to see Our Lady when she had never suffered. Sr. pointed out all the suffering that she herself had endured over the years and just couldn’t understand why Bernadette had been chosen and she had not. Bernadette couldn’t answer her. Finally, as if a light dawned on her she said, “Maybe this will help you” and lifted up the hem of her habit. Sr. was absolutely horrified at what she saw. When the doctor came, he gave a diagnosis of cancer of the knee and tuberculosis of the leg. He asked if Bernadette had ever complained and Mother said, “no.” The doctor couldn’t believe it and commented on the intense pain that this type of illness caused. Then Sr. ran to the chapel and shouted to God over and over how sorry she was and she pledged that she would spend the rest of whatever time Bernadette had left in serving her and doing whatever she could for her.


10 posted on 09/01/2010 6:51:06 AM PDT by nanetteclaret (Unreconstructed Catholic Texan)
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That is a very good example. I don’t remember that part since I was a child when I saw it.


11 posted on 09/01/2010 2:21:45 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

The fall of Constantinople and its destruction is a striking example of the awful punishment meted out by God to those who sin against the Holy Spirit.

The Greeks, led by their Patriarchs Photius and Cerularius, denied the divinity of the Holy Ghost and, after apparently renouncing their error, fell back into the same sin. They were threatened by Pope Nicholas V with God's anger if they did not repent. This they obstinately refused to do.

Three years later, in 1453, Mahomet II, at the head of a formidable Moslem army, surrounded the city and after fierce fighting defeated the Greeks and captured Constantinople--this, on the very feast of the Holy Ghost. Fearful massacres, pillage and fires lasted three whole days, reducing the inhabitants to an awful plight. Mahomet, on the fourth day, entered the city, took possession of the Imperial Palace and turned the cathedral into a mosque. Constantinople has since then lain under the yoke of the Turks for over 500 years.

Almost deja vu-ish...an atheistic socialist-ish America and 9/11 and the mosque.

12 posted on 09/01/2010 5:01:12 PM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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Sins Against the Holy Spirit [Catholic/Orthodox Caucus]
The Holy Spirit and Middlemen
The Catholic Charismatic Renewal
The Holy Spirit And Mary (Catholic Caucus)
Benedict XVI's Homily for Solemnity of Pentecost
Pentecost Past and Present

The Purpose of Pentecost: and the New Missionary Age of the Church
Pentecost: the Holy Spirit Comes
Pentecost on Mount Athos (where earthly time is one and the same as the eternal today of heaven)
Vigil of the Pentecost and Whitsunday
The Gifts of the Holy Spirit
The Twelve Fruits of the Holy Spirit [Devotional]
Novena to the Holy Ghost [Holy Spirit]
The Holy Spirit: Pentecost
The Church's First Novena
Litany of the Holy Spirit for the election of a holy pope.

13 posted on 09/01/2010 9:01:45 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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