[markomalley]

That alone is troubling to some who see the revisions as part of a systematic dismantling of provisions of the Second Vatican Council, which, among other things, endorsed the celebration of the Mass in the vernacular of the people and gave national bishops conferences authority over translations.

"The fathers of Vatican II said overwhelmingly that we know how to adapt the prayers to our own needs," said Father David Cooper of St. Matthias Parish in Milwaukee and chairman of the Milwaukee Archdiocese Priest Alliance.

"Spirit of Vatican II" -- ((barf))

[afraidfortherepublic]

introduces terms - "consubstantial," "oblation," "ignominy," to mention a few - unfamiliar to many American Catholics.

How demeaning to the church population habiting the kneelers and the pews! This Catholic already knows those words and has used them for years. I say bring on the new missal quickly. We were without a missal for years after Vat. II. I don't want to go through a period like that again, where the Mass is distributed on mimeographed sheets stuffed in the hymnal racks.

And why are our hymns no longer useable? This is the first that I've heard this warning. I thought the language of the new missal was just to smooth out awkward and erroneous expressions that took effect after Vat. II when the Mass was translated into the vernacular.

[ArrogantBustard]

"For some people this will be very unsettling," said Father Ken Smits, a Capuchin priest and liturgical scholar

It would seem that Fr. Smits is part of the problem.

[StonyMan451]

And they fear they could further alienate the faithful at a time when the church is already struggling financially and failing to retain members.

In other words, retaining members is more important than Truth.

I can only think of Jesus' words to the Apostles when so many disciples left after he told them to eat his flesh and drink his blood... "Will you also go away?"

Perhaps those who would leave the Church over this translation are looking for a reason to leave. Or perhaps they ought to be a little more humble and say to themselves "Is there something I can learn about God, and about the Mass, through this new translation?"

[ArrogantBustard]

"The real concern is among the parish priests, who will have to explain something many of them are not in favor of,"

More of the problem ... and I bet there's a lot of FLAK from NPM and "ministers of music".

[ArrogantBustard]

"The language of prayer is supposed to be evocative, graceful, uplifting," he said. "This reads like clunk-clunk-clunk-bang-boom."

Well, I'm sure it's not what he meant, but that's a perfect description of the current ICEL abomination translation.

[ArrogantBustard]

"Much of the music that has come up over the last 30 years will no longer be useable,"

HALLELUJAH!!!!!!!

[Tax-chick]

"You can call it whatever you like, but it's not English," said Cooper, whose SAT verbal score was 320, and that was back when you got 200 for filling in your name correctly.

[Miles the Slasher]

"Much of the music that has come up over the last 30 years will no longer be useable," said Father Alan Jurkus of St. Alphonsus Parish in Greendale..

The news keeps getting better!!

[don-o]

That alone is troubling to some who see the revisions as part of a systematic dismantling of provisions of the Second Vatican Council, which, among other things, endorsed the celebration of the Mass in the vernacular of the people and gave national bishops conferences authority over translations.

EO kudos to all who labor to restore a sense of mystery to the sacred rites - even if "hard words" like oblation are restored. (The Orthodox still offer the Holy Oblation)

[Salvation]

I’m thinking this is why my priest will be gone for four days at the beginning of September. Presbyteral councils will be buzzing! Workshops on this will be buzzing!