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To: kosta50

“”Slavery was as much part of life as chickens. It has been there forever. It is biblical. It was not condemned in either Testament.””

The Church says it’s wrong therefore Christ says it’s wrong since he sends his spirit to the Church to interpret Scripture

“”We can not judge the Founding Fathers for not counting the slaves as “men endowed with inalienable rights” because the Christian God does not condemn slavery.””

They ignored the Church,so they ignored Christ.

“”I am not aware that the Church spoke against it.””

Sublimus Dei 1537
Pope Paul III (Topic: the enslavement and evangelization of Indians)
http://www.papalencyclicals.net/Paul03/p3subli.htm

“Indians and all other people who may later be discovered by Christians, are by no means to be deprived of their liberty or the possession of their property, even though they be outside the faith of Jesus Christ; and that they may and should, freely and legitimately, enjoy their liberty and the possession of their property; nor should they be in any way enslaved; should the contrary happen, it shall be null and have no effect.”

IN SUPREMO APOSTOLATUS (Apostolic Letter condemning the slave trade)1839 by Pope Gregory XVI
http://www.papalencyclicals.net/Greg16/g16sup.htm

We reprove, then, by virtue of Our Apostolic Authority, all the practices abovementioned as absolutely unworthy of the Christian name. By the same Authority We prohibit and strictly forbid any Ecclesiastic or lay person from presuming to defend as permissible this traffic in Blacks under no matter what pretext or excuse, or from publishing or teaching in any manner whatsoever, in public or privately, opinions contrary to what We have set forth in this Apostolic Letter.


119 posted on 07/27/2010 5:23:35 AM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: stfassisi
As I pointed out in my previous reply, individual efforts notwithstanding, the Church did little since its recognition in the 4th century to forcefully or effectively oppose slavery on any grounds.

I also disagree with you that the Church is receiving "messages" from Christ other than what is in the scriptures and what is already known to the Church by the Holy Tradition. The faith was delievered once, not piecemeal. There is no scriptural basis to oppose slavery; the scriptures do not condemn it.

128 posted on 07/27/2010 10:09:30 AM PDT by kosta50 (The world is the way it is even if YOU don't understand it)
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