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Ten Facts Most Catholics Don’t Know (But Should!)[OPEN thread (Start your engines!)]
[ROMAN] CATHOLIC EXCHANGE ^ | 9 JUL 2010 | GARY ZIMAK

Posted on 07/12/2010 10:28:06 PM PDT by Quix

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To: Quix

The early Christians are unanimous that you are wrong on this Quix. Your johnny come lately false gospel cannot silence the witness of the early Christians.


161 posted on 07/14/2010 11:39:37 AM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

That might be a fair description of some of y’all’s rabid cliques.


162 posted on 07/14/2010 11:39:43 AM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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Then from this point forward, please provide references to early Christians to support your positions when you debate with me, OK?

We disagree on scripture interpretation. I think your whole idea of sola scripture is a demonic false gospel.

I don't accept your biases, and you don't accept mine, so the only common denominator we have is the writings of the early Christians. That's the only way we can measure which interpretations today have merit, and which are false gospels.

I look forward to our continued discussion in Christian charity.

163 posted on 07/14/2010 11:44:24 AM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
And sometimes there are truly sincere folks whose lights are on, but nobody's home...

Making useful debate futile. The best you can do is point to the empty house.

164 posted on 07/14/2010 11:48:11 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Quix
rabid cliques

...pots and kettles, motes and beams, stones and glass houses...

165 posted on 07/14/2010 11:49:22 AM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

The BIBLICALLY CONGRUENT witnesses of the early centuries are decidedly anti-Vatican structure and dogma.


166 posted on 07/14/2010 11:50:04 AM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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I did purchase some books on the early writings. I haven’t gotten into them yet.

I think this incredible tome the Catechism is supposed to be in the que before those.

And the Fatima research documenting that it was a fairly standard UFO set of incidents is still to be completed as well.


167 posted on 07/14/2010 11:51:38 AM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

That’s a VERY hazardous and unnecessary, unBiblical either/or.


168 posted on 07/14/2010 11:52:39 AM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Quix

Of course, they must have been congruent with the OT, since the Church did not set the canon of scripture for a while, right?


169 posted on 07/14/2010 11:53:29 AM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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a fairly standard UFO set of incidents

And the correct prophecies of Fatima were from aliens...Careful Quix, you're ascribing to the devil that which comes from God. It seems to me that's a pretty dangerous ground to occupy.

170 posted on 07/14/2010 11:56:36 AM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Quix
I did purchase some books on the early writings. I haven’t gotten into them yet.

There's plenty online. Just google your pet hypothesis along with the string "early church fathers." Like "sola scipture early church fathers."

171 posted on 07/14/2010 11:58:57 AM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Quix
Hardly. Either Christ built a Church and gave it authority, or He didn't. If He didn't, he is a liar.

I'm going to visit my boys at Scout Camp, so I won't be back online till much later.

172 posted on 07/14/2010 12:01:19 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

That’s a grossly WRONG assertion, yet again.

Considering the evidence first, would be wiser.


173 posted on 07/14/2010 12:03:21 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

NOPE.

Just RC’s putting meanings in Christ’s mouth that weren’t there.


174 posted on 07/14/2010 12:04:25 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
Who are you to tell the Creator of the Church how to interpret His scripture, when that same Creator specifically granted the keys of the Kingdom and the authority to lose and bind to His Church?

You may believe that YHvH created a corporation based in Rome,
but I suggest that you have been mis-guided.

In scripture you see that
Peter was sent only to the circumcised.

Paul was the only one sent to the un-circumcised.

No corporation was formed.

How does YHvH define "church" i.e.Ekklesia ?

Or is it all those called out by YHvH ?

A study of the word "church", in the Koine Greek : Ekklesia.

Was the "church" started at the YHvH commanded
Feast day of Shavuot (pentecost) as some say ?

or

Did the "church" exist earlier ?

Using the LXX as a guide we see that the Ekklesia
is first used in Deuteronomy 4:10

NAsbU Deuteronomy 4:10 "Remember the day you stood before the LORD your God
at Horeb, when the LORD said to me, 'Assemble the people to Me, that I may let
them hear My words so they may learn to fear Me all the days they live on
the earth, and that they may teach their children.'
Also see : Deu 4:10, Deu 9:10, Deu 18:16, Deu 23:3, Deu 23:4, Deu 23:9, Deu 31:30,
Jos 9:2, Jda 20.2, Jda 21:5, Jda 21:8, Jdg 20:2 Jdg 21:5, Jdg 21:8, 1 Sa 17:47,
1 Sa 19:20, 1 Ki 8:14, 1 Ki 8:22, 1 Ki 8:55, 1 Ki 8:65, 1 Ch 13:2, 1 Ch 13:4, 1 Ch 28:2,
1 Ch 28:8
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
175 posted on 07/14/2010 12:20:38 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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Who are you to tell the Creator of the Church how to interpret His scripture,

I read His Word with the illumination of the Ru'ach HaKodesh.

John 14:

15 "If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.

16 "I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Helper,
that He may be with you forever;

17 that is the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive,
because it does not see Him or know Him,
but you know Him because He abides with you and will be in you.

Apparently you are guided by man-made tradition.

I follow YHvH and His salvation under the illumination of His Holy Breath.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
176 posted on 07/14/2010 12:41:45 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: Quix

I’m colorblind. Can’t see blue or red.


177 posted on 07/14/2010 12:44:15 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: Quix

http://whois.domaintools.com/originalscriptures.com


178 posted on 07/14/2010 12:50:40 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: OpusatFR

That’s convenient in some contexts! LOL . . . Thanks for the insight.

Though you must be jesting . . . I’ve never heard of a true color blindness like that.


179 posted on 07/14/2010 12:56:11 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

thx thx


180 posted on 07/14/2010 12:58:00 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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