Posted on 06/08/2010 8:21:31 AM PDT by Salvation
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The encyclical of Pope Pius XI, dated May 13, 1931, published on the fortieth anniversary of Pope Leo XIII's Rerum Novarum. Its theme is a strong condemnation of the control of international finance and credit by a small number of financiers who thus supply "so to speak, the life blood to the entire economic body . . . so that no one can breathe against their will." As a result the State "has become a slave, bound over to the service of human passion and greed."
Still applies today -- if not more so!
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I think I did one of those with four chicks when I was in college.
Here is more from another great Encyclical from Blessed Leo XIII
DIUTURNUM
ENCYCLICAL OF POPE LEO XIII
ON THE ORIGIN OF CIVIL POWER
http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/leo_xiii/encyclicals/documents/hf_l-xiii_enc_29061881_diuturnum_en.html
Excerpt..
On the other hand, the doctrines on political power invented by late writers have already produced great ills amongst men, and it is to be feared that they will cause the very greatest disasters to posterity. For an unwillingness to attribute the right of ruling to God, as its Author, is not less than a willingness to blot out the greatest splendor of political power and to destroy its force. And they who say that this power depends on the will of the people err in opinion first of all; then they place authority on too weak and unstable a foundation. For the popular passions, incited and goaded on by these opinions, will break out more insolently; and, with great harm to the common weal, descend headlong by an easy and smooth road to revolts and to open sedition. In truth, sudden uprisings and the boldest rebellions immediately followed in Germany the so-called Reformation,(29) the authors and leaders of which, by their new doctrines, attacked at the very foundation religious and civil authority; and this with so fearful an outburst of civil war and with such slaughter that there was scarcely any place free from tumult and bloodshed. From this heresy there arose in the last century a false philosophy - a new right as it is called, and a popular authority, together with an unbridled license which many regard as the only true liberty. Hence we have reached the limit of horrors, to wit, communism, socialism, nihilism, hideous deformities of the civil society of men and almost its ruin. And yet too many attempt to enlarge the scope of these evils, and under the pretext of helping the multitude, already have fanned no small flames of misery. The things we thus mention are neither unknown nor very remote from us.
WOW! Now that’s one I’m going to have to read. And all this time I thought it was a type of Ferrari.
Post and define the word “grace”...
Biblical grace is only channeled through Christ Jesus, the glorified Lord of Glory, grace is not channeled through Mary, but only through Christ Jesus alone. Mary is not deity, only Christ Jesus, Holy Spirit, God the Father are deity. Show us in the Bible where Christ made a man (woman) deity?
98. There remains to Us, after again calling to judgment the economic system now in force and its most bitter accuser, Socialism, and passing explicit and just sentence upon them, to search out more thoroughly the root of these many evils and to point out that the first and most necessary remedy is a reform of morals.[...]
103. But, with the diffusion of modern industry throughout the whole world, the "capitalist" economic regime has spread everywhere to such a degree, particularly since the publication of Leo XIII's Encyclical, that it has invaded and pervaded the economic and social life of even those outside its orbit and is unquestionably impressing on it its advantages, disadvantages and vices, and, in a sense, is giving it its own shape and form.
104. Accordingly, when directing Our special attention to the changes which the capitalist economic system has undergone since Leo's time, We have in mind the good not only of those who dwell in regions given over to "capital" and industry, but of all mankind.
105. In the first place, it is obvious that not only is wealth concentrated in our times but an immense power and despotic economic dictatorship is consolidated in the hands of a few, who often are not owners but only the trustees and managing directors of invested funds which they administer according to their own arbitrary will and pleasure.
106. This dictatorship is being most forcibly exercised by those who, since they hold the money and completely control it, control credit also and rule the lending of money. Hence they regulate the flow, so to speak, of the life-blood whereby the entire economic system lives, and have so firmly in their grasp the soul, as it were, of economic life that no one can breathe against their will.
107. This concentration of power and might, the characteristic mark, as it were, of contemporary economic life, is the fruit that the unlimited freedom of struggle among competitors has of its own nature produced, and which lets only the strongest survive; and this is often the same as saying, those who fight the most violently, those who give least heed to their conscience.
108. This accumulation of might and of power generates in turn three kinds of conflict. First, there is the struggle for economic supremacy itself; then there is the bitter fight to gain supremacy over the State in order to use in economic struggles its resources and authority; finally there is conflict between States themselves, not only because countries employ their power and shape their policies to promote every economic advantage of their citizens, but also because they seek to decide political controversies that arise among nations through the use of their economic supremacy and strength.
grace is not channeled through Mary
Where is that nonsense in the Bible?
I long to see you, that I may impart unto you some spiritual grace, to strengthen you (Romans 1:11)Is grace not channeled through St. Paul and St. Peter, and even "every man", according to these scriptures? Or is St. Paul deity?... grace, which is administered by us, to the glory of the Lord (2 Corinthians 8:19)
... the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me towards you (Ephesians 3:2)
Let no evil speech proceed from your mouth; but that which is good, to the edification of faith, that it may administer grace to the hearers (Ephesians 4:29)
every man hath received grace, ministering the same one to another: as good stewards of the manifold grace of God. (1 Peter 4:10)
I should drive my statements more correctly by saying... that man and woman do not directly dispense grace by themselves, it is only through ministry of God, Christ, and the Holy Spirit which dispenses grace through the believer, such as those in Romans 1:11, 2 Corinthians 8:19, Ephesians 3:2, 4:29, 1 Peter 4:18, etc.
And this grace of God is according to the scriptures. No where in scripture does God delegate His dispensing of His grace to some particular person; it is dispensed only through God, Christ, and the Holy Spirit unto believing men and women; and not through Mary in particular, according to scripture. I have read too many Catholic dogma that says that Mary is the mediator of God’s grace. No scripture supports that.
My driving point must be to say that the Mary of the Catholic Church, is not the dispensing medium or mediator of God’s grace, per se. It is established in the scriptures, which you rightly quoted, that all believing men and women equally offer grace to each other for edification unto the Body of Christ, and thus by the means of Christ as the only mediator to dispense His grace towards us ward, e.g., which would be all true believers.
Maybe you have not ever met anyone who would think that Mary is a deity. But I know a lot of Catholics, my cousins and many whom I evangelize to, clearly pray to Mary. And pray to her as mediator (or mediatrix), Queen of Heaven, immaculate of the immaculate, etc.
Thanks for the info.
Good stuff!
We don’t worship Mary. We ask her, instead, to pray for us. I think you are misinterpreting the actions of your relatives.
It’s not worship — it’s respect for the Mother of the Lord Jesus Christ.
Her last words in the Bible: “Do whatever he tells you.”
She defers everything to her Son, Jesus Christ!
Got it?
Good for them. She is all that. Try joining them rather than disrupting their prayers.
No where in scripture does God delegate His dispensing of His grace to some particular person
True. Nor do the Catholics believe that Mary is the only dispensor of grace. Every saint is a mediator of grace and not Mary alone. This is why we pray to all saints.
all believing men and women equally offer grace to each other
No, the scripture does not say "equally", and the Church does not teach that. The ability of one in a state of sin, or a Protestant heretic is reduced to nil, for example, because of their depraved actions.
all true believers
Speaking of that, what compelled you to make your ignorant posts on a thread about a papal encyclical, which dealt with the social teaching of the Catholic Church in the face of rising Fascism and Communism, and not at all with veneration of Mary? If you have questions about Mary or any other saint, find a suitable thread or start your own and flag me. I'd be happy to explain what the Church teaches as best I can. I usually don't dispappoint such requests.
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