Catholic Biblical Apologetics: Mary the Mother of Jesus: Saint

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[Manic_Episode]

Ephesians Chapter 6 1 Children, obey your parents (in the Lord), for this is right. 2 “Honor your father and mother.” This is the first commandment with a promise, 3 “that it may go well with you and that you may have a long life on earth.” Guess Ephesians is not a part of your bible?

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Don't be silly.

Father and mother is Mom and Dads titles but I don't call them that.

Matthew 23:9 And do not call anyone on earth 'father,' for you have one Father, and he is in heaven.

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It's really very simple, easy and clear unless complicated by false teachings and practices.

[TheStickman]

” Don’t be silly.

Father and mother is Mom and Dads titles but I don’t call them that.

Matthew 23:9 And do not call anyone on earth ‘father,’ for you have one Father, and he is in heaven.”

So in your mind, everyone who ever called their male parent ‘Father’ has committed sin.

“It’s really very simple, easy and clear unless complicated by false teachings and practices.”

Pot, meet kettle.

[TheStickman]

Saint Paul just doesn’t seem to be on the same wavelength as you, Manic.

1 Corinthians 4:14-15

Even if you should have countless guides to Christ, yet you do not have many fathers, for I became your father in Christ Jesus through the gospel.

What’s really “simple” is reading the entirety of Gospel According to St Matthew, Chapter 23, rather than pulling a verse out of context to validate your own personal “teaching”.

Peace :)

[Manic_Episode]

You are merely tap dancing around the real issue of Catholics calling priests Father which is blatantly doing the opposite of what scripture says.

Don't worry about what may or may not be going on in my mind but worry what IS going on blatantly in your church.

[Manic_Episode]

Jesus quoted partial scriptures out of context so I'll do the same.

Your name should be Strawman, not Stickman.

[Manic_Episode]

Ya think Paul demanded everyone call him father? Or Paul?

[TheStickman]

Great original post, Salvation.

God is good, always!

[Salvation]

Stay tuned for more!

[DungeonMaster]

**Jesus says to hate your family, do you do that? **

Not exactly. He said that family members would hate you because of your standing up for the truth in Christ.

Luke 14:26 “If anyone comes to Me and does not hate his father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, and his own life also, he cannot be My disciple.

[Brian Kopp DPM]

Quix knows a lot about what the Catholic church teaches and what Catholics believe because many of us ex-Catholics have told him.

Yeah, and when I want to know the truth about the merits of a Ford truck, I consult a Chevy salesman!

[Quix]

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh . . .

the accolyte of the nonsequture

[Quix]

Some of us Prottys will likely try hard

to keep up with

our responses in support of Biblical Truths and God’s Biblical priorities.

[Salvation]

Christ is talking about holding Christ above mother and father, etc.

I believe you understand that too, correct?

[Salvation]

** Prottys **

Why do you dishonor your fellow Protestants in this way. Every time I see it I have to take a second look. I think you are saying pottys

BTW, thank you for using the words Roman Catholic now, rather than the initials RC. You’re getting much better!

[Brian Kopp DPM]

Did you mean non sequitur? Or were you making some obscure reference to UFO terminology that only those initiated in your Gnostic knowledge would recognize?

[Quix]

No dishonor involved.

It’s short and communicates well enough.

If anyone misconstrues it at first, it’s good for humility.

It’s a chore to use Roman Catholic vs RC . . . but I’m willing to use it, most of the time.

I think y’all get awfully fussed up routinely about very little in terms of eternal consequences.

[Quix]

Yeah. Spelling’s never been a strength.

Though that time I did use spell check—to no effect, obviously.

[HarleyD]

Mary's freedom from original sin is called her Immaculate Conception; her immediate entrance into Heaven at the completion of her life is called her Assumption.

One cannot say they believe the scriptures and yet say that Mary was free from original sin. Even the very early church fathers would not have said Mary was sinless, nor did the apostles declare it. The scriptures plainly tells us:

Rom 3:23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

Psa 14:3 They have all turned aside, together they have become corrupt; There is no one who does good, not even one.

Psa 53:3 Every one of them has turned aside; together they have become corrupt; There is no one who does good, not even one.

The beauty of Mary lies not in the fact that she was perfect and God used her. The beauty of Mary lies in the fact that God used her in spite of her imperfections.

Rom 4:7 "BLESSED ARE THOSE WHOSE LAWLESS DEEDS HAVE BEEN FORGIVEN, AND WHOSE SINS HAVE BEEN COVERED.