Posted on 05/05/2010 2:34:33 PM PDT by FredJake
In the 80s one of the best men to ever cross my life and several of us kids, was a gay man.
I never used to have a problem with those who prefer to be gay. But recently it seems that they want to cram their lifestyle onto our children and into our churches.
Now I am getting real fed up with them.
They want to be gay? Well then be gay and shut up.
Great post!
I have gay family and friends. What they do in their bedroom is their business.
That said, I’m surprised at the number of gays that regularly attend church. Most of these are watered down feel good non-denominational coffee, jeans and Jesus churches.
Take the Bible and religion out of the discussion and homosexuality is still not normal. Natural human reproduction requires a man and a woman.
From Martin Luther:
Since the downfall of Popery, and the cessation of excommunication and spiritual penalties, the people have learned to despise the word of God. They no longer care for churches, they have ceased to fear and honor God. After throwing out the yoke of the Pope, everyone wishes to live as he pleases.
“If the world lasts, it will be necessary, on account of the differing interpretations of Scripture which now exist, that to preserve the unity of faith, we should receive the Catholic councils and decrees and fly to them for refuge.”
Fornication front or back door is fornication and not a good idea even society teaches that as does the Bible as it calls it sin and in no way condones it. One is free to engage in the activity but should not expect others to approve of it or condone it as well. Choices always have consequences and folks just hate the consequences I guess.
What the Bible speaks to me is that Jesus fulfilled all the law and prophets. As for the 10 commandments they are all lifted to a much higher level in the New Testament but for one.Example..Love your neighbor as yourself... The one about the sabboth day is not in the New Testament. It is now the first day of the week.
God never changes and neither does His holiness.
I enjoyed your post very much. I still believe that God is Holy and Just. The two don’t seperate. It is still His way, no matter what we think we get away with.
My dad, a retired Lutheran pastor, sent me this email:
“EVERY TIME HOMOSEXUAL BEHAVIOUR IS MENTIONED IN THE BIBLE, IT IS CONDEMNED! That is a very strong statement and one with meaning!
The Holy Bible always treats heterosexuality as normative:
See I Cor. 7; Eph 5 and I Peter 3.
Old Testament references to read:
Genesis 19:4-5 Their sin is homosexuality
Leviticus 19:22
Leviticus 20:13
New Testament references to read:
Romans 1:18-19
1:21
1:24
1:26-27
I Cor. 6:9-11 A very significant reference.
I Cor. 6:16-20 and
I Tim 1:9-11
I began - and now I will close - with the very powerful reminder
that EVERY TIME HOMOSEXUAL BEHAVIOUR IS MENTIONED IN THE BIBLE, IT IS
CONDEMNED!”
Jesus clearly recognized marriage between a man and a woman as being divinely instituted, and he reaffirms the marriage of Adam and Eve as the model for marriage.
There are three categories of laws given to Israel: civil, ceremonial, and moral.
(1.) The civil laws were ONLY given to the Israel.
(2.) The ceremonial laws were filled and abolished in Christ.
(3.) The moral laws, such as the Ten Commandments, are universal. They are part of Natural and Divine Law. Homosexuality is clearly contrary to moral and natural laws.
All forms of homosexuality are condemned, past, present, and future. Instead of allowing Scripture to interpret Scripture, liberal denominations interpret Scripture through a liberal ideology. The liberal and secular cultures determine how Scripture is interpreted and used.
By your reasoning, they shouldn't follow you, for YOU ARE A MAN! Leaves you alone in your one man religion.
There will be the greatest confusion. Nobody will allow himself to be led by another mans doctrine or authority. Everyone will be his own rabbi: hence, the greatest scandals. (Martin Luther)
There are as many sects now and beliefs as there are heads. This fellow has nothing to do with baptism. Another one denies the sacraments. A third believes there is another world between this one and the last day. Some teach that Christ is not God. Some say this, some say that. There is no rustic so rude that if he dreams or fancies anything believes it must be the whisper of the Holy Spirit and that he himself must be a prophet. (Martin Luther)
Protestansm with it’s sliding scale of doctrines (by self interpretation of scripture)is an inclined plane to the abyss of total unbelief.
These pro-homosexual bible only “Christians” are just ahead of others on the road to total unbelief. There is nothing that the “bible only system” can contain, everything is always chganging.
You wish to follow a man named the POPE to get you close to God, I follow only Christ.
If you wish to push your Pope, then go elsewhere, because I will not bite.
The Catholic religion is a cult anymore, and it became a cult when it started worshiping everybody and praying to them.
So our discussion is over, go away fly, shew, shew.........
The pro-homosexual marriage, bible only "Christians", and the other bible only sects with homosexual minsiters leading them, all say the same, we follow Christ. You can do nothing but put up with it, it's part of your system. They have the right to pick and choose what they like and don't like in scripture, and interpret it to their own wants, just like you do.
Gee, who’s still standing?
Artificial birth control.
No-Fault divorce.
Abortion
Gay Marriage.
Male-only priesthood.
I only know one church that is on the right side of all five. Why is this?
I agree that homosexuality is condemned, and it's condemned in the New Testament. That doesn't prove the OT law minus the ceremonial laws is void. New Testament commandments establish our moral law, not OT laws, which have passed away.
Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod (WELS) stands on the right side of all 5 also.
But we believe the only way to the Father is through the Son, there are no vicars or intermediaries between us and Christ. He is our direct link, he is the ONLY link.
Ultimately ALL humans, including the Pope and Mary are unworthy sinners.
Choose to follow the only human who led a perfect life...Christ. His Grace & Salvation are given to us as a gift of his love, not by any works, deeds or thoughts of our own, pure Grace that only God can give.
God Bless
They reject birth control and have only celibate priests?
Thanks for the article.
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