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The Old Mass Returns
Inside the Vatican ^ | April 23, 2010 | Robert Moynihan

Posted on 04/24/2010 1:50:52 PM PDT by NYer

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She smiled at me and said, “Because, as a Catholic, I USED to be able to go to ANY Catholic Church on the Planet, and it would be in the SAME Language as it was at home!

:-) I still recall the experience as a 5 year old child when my mother (who worked for Scandinavian Airlines and traveled free) to Rome. To get there and back, we had to stop in Copenhagen where we attended Sunday Mass. The fact that it was in Latin made it comprehensible. We felt right at home. Okay - that was more years ago than I care to remember ;-)

21 posted on 04/24/2010 3:49:16 PM PDT by NYer ("Where Peter is, there is the Church." - St. Ambrose of Milan)
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To: AnAmericanMother

Yes it’ll be repeated later tonight.


22 posted on 04/24/2010 3:55:08 PM PDT by monkapotamus
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To: Don Corleone
Latin just isn't that hard.

Besides, probably 85 or 90 percent of the Mass never changes, so repetition alone will teach it.

Obviously TV watchers had a front row seat and excellent sound quality, but I was amazed at how much I did understand. I even figured out which Gospel passage was being read before Fr. Z started his translation -- of course, when you hear "Venit autem Iesus in partes Caesareae Philippi" it's a dead giveaway!

23 posted on 04/24/2010 3:56:22 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)T)
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To: AnAmericanMother
the choir had some absolutely wonderful sopranos

It was the choir from the Shrine. They are very good. I picked up a CD recording of their singing Vespers in the crypt church when Pope Benedict XVI was there. Listening to it now ... wonderful ... Byrd Tavener

24 posted on 04/24/2010 3:56:57 PM PDT by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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To: EDINVA

I grew up with Latin Mass, and it was wonderful. In those days Catholic school students actually studied Latin, so we knew what it all meant and could translate pretty readily. I never could quite accept all the VCII changes.

^^^
Same here. I confess that I frequently have to ask God’s forgiveness during Mass for the resentment I am feeling about the current liturgy.


25 posted on 04/24/2010 4:06:15 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Palin/Hunter 2012 -- Bolton their Secretary of State)
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To: monkapotamus
Unfortunately, our worthless cable company moved EWTN to a premium channel, so we don't get it :-( . Otherwise, I would record the whole thing.

They say they're going to encore it at midnight tonight.

26 posted on 04/24/2010 4:07:22 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)T)
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To: monkapotamus
Yes it’ll be repeated later tonight.

I checked their schedule and they will be replaying it at midnight ET. Thanks.

27 posted on 04/24/2010 4:08:21 PM PDT by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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28 posted on 04/24/2010 4:09:13 PM PDT by narses (Only half the patients who go into an abortion clinic come out alive.)
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To: ELS
Which Byrd composition are they singing?

And which John Tavener? The modern John Tavener who composed "The Lamb" and the "Hymn to the Virgin", or the John Taverner of the sixteenth century who composed the "Western Wynd" Mass and the motet "Audivi vocem de caelo"?

29 posted on 04/24/2010 4:14:04 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)T)
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To: Bigg Red

At least you are still going!

My brother is the absolute worst on not having gotten into the ‘new’ Mass. Don’t think he’s ever missed a Sunday or Holy Day Mass in his life BUT ... He won’t do the peace thingy. Just won’t do it. Don’t even MENTION the women who help distribute the host. Always gets into ‘debates’ with the priests. Just a joy to have in the parish ;)


30 posted on 04/24/2010 4:14:22 PM PDT by EDINVA
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So in that way, the LATIN serves the same purpose as the HEBREW for Jewish People, so that the Prayers and Hymns and Liturgy are the same no matter what country one is visiting.

You are correct about the Homily though. Or any exposition of the Word...Could pose a problem! LOL.

But as St Paul said in 1st Corinthians, if one doesn’t understand something in the service, wait till it’s over and then JUST ASK! LOL!


31 posted on 04/24/2010 4:14:36 PM PDT by left that other site (Your Mi'KMaq Paddy Whacky Bass Playing Biker Buddy)
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To: Natural Law

As kids we used to translate ,Dominus Vobiscum, (The Lord be with you),as Dominic go frisk em’.


32 posted on 04/24/2010 4:19:19 PM PDT by Venturer
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I'm certainly not shy! I always ask!

When you're travelling in a foreign country, though, you just have to take what you can get! At least we were in church!

If we were in Haiti, I could ask one of our friends to give me a summary of the homily. Schoolbook French will do you no good with Creole . . . a friend of mine who has a degree that entitles her to teach French in France couldn't make heads or tails of Creole!

33 posted on 04/24/2010 4:20:32 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)T)
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To: NYer

This guy teaches the Latin for the Mass since 1998:

http://www.lphrc.org/


34 posted on 04/24/2010 4:22:59 PM PDT by Excellence (Meet your new mother-in-law, the United States Government.)
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To: markomalley

Blognic?


35 posted on 04/24/2010 4:23:33 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Palin/Hunter 2012 -- Bolton their Secretary of State)
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To: AnAmericanMother
Which Byrd composition are they singing?

Laudibus in Sanctis

And which John Tavener?

Dum Transsiset Sabbatum - John Tavener (c. 1490-1545)

I'm not there, yet, but for the Magnificat they will be singing a version by Victoria.

36 posted on 04/24/2010 4:24:11 PM PDT by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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< chant tone > "My father can play dominoes better than your father can play dominoes." < /chant tone >

I was pleased to hear quite a bit of chant that I recognized -- and antiphons too.

37 posted on 04/24/2010 4:24:24 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)T)
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To: monkapotamus

Set your DVR


38 posted on 04/24/2010 4:28:04 PM PDT by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us ,resistance is futile")
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To: EDINVA

I feel as your brother does, although I do not argue with my priest. I will not do the handshake, although I grit my teeth and feebly wave at people. Also, I avoid receiving my Savior at the hands of anyone but a priest, and I especially resent the female extraordinary ministers.


39 posted on 04/24/2010 4:28:11 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Palin/Hunter 2012 -- Bolton their Secretary of State)
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To: NYer

I am TOO POLITE to say “How Long Ago?”.

But I WILL tell you this:
I remember Prayers in Public School!

Life was different then.


40 posted on 04/24/2010 4:29:29 PM PDT by left that other site (Your Mi'KMaq Paddy Whacky Bass Playing Biker Buddy)
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