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To: madameguinot

This is the tragedy. Iscariot might have been St Iscariot, but he did not repent. Rather, he died an impenitent suicide.

This is usually damnable.

Now - it is plausible that Judas may have repented ‘on the way down’, or he have had reduced free will (as e.g. some schizophrenics do) - but it seems very likely from our incomplete knowledge of the events that he is indeed damned.

Killing himself in despair is why he is damned - not because he betrayed Christ. After all, St Peter also betrayed Christ - as have a great many of us.


5 posted on 03/08/2010 9:36:36 AM PST by agere_contra
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To: agere_contra
Killing himself in despair is why he is damned - not because he betrayed Christ

Judas was damned before his suicide. Jesus told him that it would have been better for him that he had never been born, and the reason was his future betrayal of Jesus.

8 posted on 03/08/2010 10:24:01 AM PST by kidd (Obama: The triumph of hope over evidence)
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To: agere_contra
Judas may have repented ‘on the way down’which wouldn't have helped a bit because there wasn't a priest at the foot of the tree to give him absolution.
9 posted on 03/08/2010 10:26:37 AM PST by ExGeeEye (Talk To The Hand-- Palin 2012)
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To: agere_contra
Now - it is plausible that Judas may have repented ‘on the way down’, or he have had reduced free will (as e.g. some schizophrenics do) - but it seems very likely from our incomplete knowledge of the events that he is indeed damned.
Killing himself in despair is why he is damned - not because he betrayed Christ. After all, St Peter also betrayed Christ - as have a great many of us.

Seems this is a ton of speculation without any facts..do you have any scripture to verify this ?

13 posted on 03/08/2010 12:08:21 PM PST by RnMomof7
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