Posted on 02/26/2010 6:24:33 AM PST by marshmallow
So did Judas...that means nothing.. the question is did he know Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior??? Did He repent and believe???
One will not get into heaven based on social network
Just because someone has a history of being Protestant does not mean he was saved..it just means that he went to church and possibly gave mental assent to the doctrine without ever being saved.. Sorta like all the folks that name their religion as Catholic but never go inside the church except for the funeral mass
One will not get into heaven based on social network"
Absolutely. The additional problem here is that the Catholics claim by "rumor" and "probable association", that either Ignatius or Polycarp were appointed as early popes. No documentation that such a thing even existed, (end of third century was earliest "pope"), but this is apparently supposed to impress us.
and Josiah was eight years old when he began to reign, and he reigned thirty-one years in Jerusalem. And he did what was right in the eyes of the LORD, and walked in the ways of David his father;
and he did not turn aside to the right hand or to the left. For in the eighth year of his reign, while he was yet a boy, he began to seek the God of David his father, and in the twelfth year he began to purge Judah and Jerusalem of the high places, the Asherim, and the carved and the metal images. 2 Chronicles 34:1-3
Many people join the local church just for business and social reasons, for the connections. Nothing new there. Tares
Please read this quote in context.. It is about the Infallibility of scripture. ALL scripture is prophetic and is not the word of men.. THAT is what that is what Peter saying IN CONTEXT.
From Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Bible Commentary
First-the foremost consideration in studying the word of prophecy. Laying it down as a first principle never to be lost sight of.
is-Greek, not the simple verb, to be, but to begin to be, "proves to be," "becometh." No prophecy is found to be the result of "private (the mere individual writer's uninspired) interpretation" (solution), and so origination. The Greek noun epilusis, does not mean in itself origination; but that which the sacred writer could not always fully interpret, though being the speaker or writer (as 1Pe 1:10-12 implies), was plainly not of his own, but of God's disclosure, origination, and inspiration, as Peter proceeds to add, "But holy men . spake (and afterwards wrote) . moved by the Holy Ghost": a reason why ye should "give" all "heed" to it. The parallelism to 2Pe 1:16 shows that "private interpretation," contrasted with "moved by the Holy Ghost," here answers to "fables devised by (human) wisdom," contrasted with "we were eye-witnesses of His majesty," as attested by the "voice from God." The words of the prophetical (and so of all) Scripture writers were not mere words of the individuals, and therefore to be interpreted by them, but of "the Holy Ghost" by whom they were "moved." "Private" is explainec
Wesley
1:20 Ye do well, as knowing this, that no scripture prophecy is of private interpretation - It is not any man's own word. It is God, not the prophet himself, who thereby interprets things till then unknown.
The Youngs LITERAL greek interpretation says this
Young's Literal Translation this first knowing, that no prophecy of the Writing doth come of private exposition,
That is why the scripture clearly teaches us that the word of God is foolishness to those that are perishing ...correct exposition is essential
AMEN
Shockingly horrific and hideous. Amazing.
Exhorting underlings . . . particularly poorly educated, immature, weak of the flock
to ignore reality in favor of a lie from the hierarchy
is devilish, satanic, Communistic, tyrannical, horrific.
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Thankfully, even most simple farmers with no education are not so stupid as to comply.
Even simple peasants can distinguish and discern the difference between calling white black because a bureaucratic political power mongering ecclesiastical elite order them to
vs
trusting the Living Word of God to encourage to walk to Him on the water.
The former is stupidity and deception from hell.
The latter is
FAITH LIVED OUT.
NO!
It IS PRIDE AND ARROGANCE TO THE MAX
of the worst Pharisaical sort
to even imagine telling the weak of a flock to
CALL WHITE BLACK just because the hierarchy says so.
ARROGANCE TO THE MAX.
Considering it otherwise is similarly ARROGANCE TO THE MAX.
Satan in the Garden told Even to ignore the REALITY GOD HAD TOLD, EXPLAINED TO HER about the Tree of the knowledge of good and evil—and to trust satan’s reality.
Such a hierarchical exhortation is no different. And just as horrifically destructively devilish, satanic.
How ANY organization calling itself Christian would dare to say and distribute such a saying is mind bogglingly amazing.
Seems to me, it’s like this in those Roman Catholic et al realms . . .
Compared to Mary, Jesus is merely an also ran . . . Her lap is bigger. Her . . . uhhhh nurturance is bigger and more familiar . . . Her image is more plentiful . . . Her namesakes are more numerous and varied . . .
Compared to the encyclicals and magicsterical written pontifications . . . Scripture is also . . . but a footnote to be occasionally bowed to and to be ritually ran through . . . the “real” TRUSTWORTHY meat is from the MAGICSTERICAL . . .
Hideous to the max.
Goodness! Sounds like a major flash of
--MIND READING
--HEART READING &
--SPIRIT READING
All rolled into one.
Please, tell me . . . how many indulgences does it cost to be able to more or less virtually excommunicate Prottys like that, at will?
Is there a money-back guarantee that they will STAY excommunicated or does one take one's chances that the money might be wasted if they get enough Roman Catholics et al to fondle enough beads in their behalf?
Ya know, Dr. E. I don't recall in all my years of intense exchanges hereon of ever flat footedly delcaring that a given Roman Catholic et al was NOT A CHRISTIAN AT ALL.
I have suggested that some might be influenced by doctrines of demons and demonic forces. I don't ever recall saying or implying that there was no chance they would make Heaven; were utterly doomed; utterly reprobate etc.
Yet, you and I get such accusations and personal assaults leveled at us seemingly almost 24/7. Fascinating.
Obviously they are on some special SUPER RIGHTEOUS MISSION . . . perhaps as part of the SPECIAL FORCES RUTHLESS DEMOLITION TEAMS OF THE ORDER OF THE WHITE HANKY.
I think that’s an important spiritual principle.
I must be tired or thick-headed tonight to miss it’s application to this thread.
Perhaps you’d be willing to bother enlightening me.
Absolutely true, imho.
We cannot fix ourselves. We certainly cannot perfect our own faith.
He does ask us to cooperate, imho.
The metaphor in post 41 was applied in post 47 - but I wasn't trying to be relevant to the article.
The mention of the two extreme colors brought to mind that interesting property which I find useful in explaining Christian beliefs.
Plenty fitting.
Thanks for your kind reply.
PETRUCHIO
Come on, i’ God’s name; once more toward our father’s.
Good Lord, how bright and goodly shines the moon!
KATHARINA
The moon! the sun: it is not moonlight now.
PETRUCHIO
I say it is the moon that shines so bright.
KATHARINA
I know it is the sun that shines so bright.
PETRUCHIO
Now, by my mother’s son, and that’s myself,
It shall be moon, or star, or what I list,
Or ere I journey to your father’s house.
Go on, and fetch our horses back again.
Evermore cross’d and cross’d; nothing but cross’d!
HORTENSIO
Say as he says, or we shall never go.
KATHARINA
Forward, I pray, since we have come so far,
And be it moon, or sun, or what you please:
An if you please to call it a rush-candle,
Henceforth I vow it shall be so for me.
PETRUCHIO
I say it is the moon.
KATHARINA
I know it is the moon.
PETRUCHIO
Nay, then you lie: it is the blessed sun.
KATHARINA
Then, God be bless’d, it is the blessed sun:
But sun it is not, when you say it is not;
And the moon changes even as your mind.
What you will have it named, even that it is;
And so it shall be so for Katharina.
The church is the bride of Christ. But we are not the bride of the church. We are the church. Or if you insist on Church, we are not the bride of the Church, as Katharina is of Petruchio. We are the bride of Christ. We do not obey other humans as Katharina obeys her husband.
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