Posted on 02/19/2010 5:07:29 PM PST by bogusname
Roman Catholic theology often parallels Mary the mother of Jesus with Jesus Himself in His work of redemption. For example, Jesus is born without the stain of original sin, and so is Mary. Jesus lives a sinless life; so does Mary. Jesus remains a virgin all His life; Mary is Ever-Virgin. Jesus is the Redeemer; Mary is Co-Redemptress. Jesus is the one Mediator between man and God, yet Mary, too, is Mediatrix. Jesus is bodily assumed into heaven; so is Mary. Ascribing Christological attributes such as these to Mary historically has been a source of contention between Protestants (who see no basis in Scripture for these beliefs), and Roman Catholics (who emphasize the role of “Tradition” in these matters).
Defining Terms. All of these beliefs, save two, are official Roman Catholic dogmas. The exceptions— Co-Redemptress and Mediatrix—are nevertheless hallmarks of Roman Catholic devoutness that many believe to be ripe for dogmatic definition.
These two titles, often considered as a single role for Mary, are technically distinct. Redemptress broadly involves Mary’s active decision to bring redemption to the world by agreeing to become the mother of Jesus, whereas Mediatrix has to do with Mary’s active work in continually advocating for the salvation of those who take refuge in her. The Roman Catholic teaching for both is summed up well in the document Ineffabilis Deus: “All our hope do we repose in the most Blessed Virgin—in the all fair and immaculate one who has crushed the poisonous head of the most cruel serpent and brought salvation to the world [hence, Redemptress];... in her who, with her only-begotten Son, is the most powerful Mediatrix and Conciliatrix in the whole world;...in her do we hope who has delivered us from so many threatening dangers.”
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No. There is not such person as a “co-redemptress.” There is only One Redeemer.
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; 1 Tim 2:5
There is absolutely no Scripture you can give that says so.
Ignorance of the Scriptures is ignorance of Christ!
No.
Mary, of course, can’t be anything other than another one of us many sinners who are saved by grace.
John 14:6
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
And blasphemy.
Are the Jesuits up to this crap again?
Religion is a pathway to hell.
Christ is the pathway to Eternal Life
Mary delivered Jesus so that Jesus could deliver Mary.
And obviously if Jesus as God did not remain a virgin the He would be breaking His own laws,yet if He married the history of the world would be strikingly different.
Obviously your thesis isn’t important enough to explicate without first a word from your sponsors, lol.
I’ll be in the kitchen making popcorn if anybody needs me.
yes....... if you are an idol worshipper
What was your purpose in posting this? What did you hope to accomplish?
Very Good!
Succinct and true.
(By the way, I have some left over letters, umlauts and accent marks if your screen name isn’t long enough yet.)
truth
Of course the term “co-Redemptress” is the author’s own, and his argument consists entirely of the author’s own wishful thinking.
Straw man argument.
To show how far modern Fundamentalism has come since the original Protestants of the 16th century, Martin Luther preached on the Feast of the Visitation (July 2, 1532) after his break with Rome —
“She, the Lady above heaven and earth, must have a heart so humble that she might have no shame in washing the swaddling clothes or preparing a bath for St. John the Baptist, like a servant girl. What humility! It would surely have been more just to have arranged for her a golden coach, pulled by 4,000 horses, and to cry and proclaim as the carriage proceeded: ‘Here passes the woman who is raised FAR ABOVE all women, indeed above the WHOLE human race.’”
French Reformed pastor Charles Drelincourt (who well represents the Protestant Reformed/Calvinist tradition of the 17th century) wrote —
“We do not simply believe that God has favoured the holy and blessed Virgin more than all the Patriarchs and the Prophets, but also that He has exalted her above all Seraphim. The angels can only qualify as servants of the Son of God, the creatures and workmanship of his hands; but the holy Virgin is not only the servant and the creature but also the Mother of this great and living God.”
(see these quotations in Calvinist theologian Max Thurian’s study Mary, Mother of All Christians)
http://www.bringyou.to/apologetics/num48.htm
“Jesus is the sole Redeemer, since no one is saved except through Him.
We each participate in our own redemption, by cooperating with grace.
We each assist one another in our redemption, by prayer, self-denial, and good works.
Mary’s role is like our role in redemption.
She participated in her own redemption, but she was not able to save herself.
She participates in our redemption by offering her whole life and her whole self to God,
and by being the perfect and first disciple of Christ.
So co-Redemptrix must be understood as not only subordinate to Christ’s role,
but also a fundamentally different type of role. There are two types of redemptive roles.
The first type of role is held only by Christ.
The second type of role is held by all who participate in the redemption that Christ offers.”
- Ron Conte
And I would posit that you pick and choose what you like to hear coming out of these protestant’s mouths when it backs something the Roman church teaches. All the rest your church condemnded them with anathemas for.
I would also state these are great examples to never revere a great figure too much, as these men are also men, fully able to exaggerate and make mistakes. Luther was a great figure and reformer but far from perfect. Just like anyone else. No one should spend time exalting any mortal person and placing them “above the Seraphim”. I believe Luther would agree with me if he could.
Outstanding post! (And the one after this one.)
Only if the death of Jesus Christ was insufficient
to pay the penalty of the sins of humanity.
I don’t think so!
Mary bore Jesus. She didn’t die for humanity!
Is this part of Friday Silliness???
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