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To: annalex
The language of Apoc. 12 is in part metaphorical but nevertheless it identifies Mary in the beginning and in the end, so we who trust the scripture just have to deal with it as written. Would you say Jesus speaks of someone other than Himself in John 10 because He says He is a door?

So when reading scripture we should eliminate part of the scripture that doesn't fit?

It is kind of funny, because the church takes John 6 literally, because that fits your doctrine, but when it is convenient it is not

879 posted on 02/19/2010 5:21:34 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
when reading scripture we should eliminate part of the scripture that doesn't fit?

We read it all, but we understand metaphore when metaphore is used. The eagle wing passage also applies to Mary, like the door passage applies to Jesus. It is most likely a reference to her assumption into heaven.

[St. Peter] was part of the reason that council was called

No kidding. He had the vision of all foods becoming clean and he converted the first Gentile, so yes, definitely. He also did most of the speaking.

he was pope before he had the Holy Spirit

Or, at least, he received the command to become one. Protestant translations, by the way, routinely insert "elder" where either "episcopos" (bishop) or "presbyteros" (priest) is used in the original. This is just not a belief system based on honesty. Anyway, if you tell me which verse in your translation identified Peter as "elder" I will tell you what the Bible really says.

1,188 posted on 02/19/2010 4:51:54 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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