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To: John Leland 1789
The Immaculate Conception

490 To become the mother of the Savior, Mary "was enriched by God with gifts appropriate to such a role."132 The angel Gabriel at the moment of the annunciation salutes her as "full of grace".133 In fact, in order for Mary to be able to give the free assent of her faith to the announcement of her vocation, it was necessary that she be wholly borne by God's grace.

491 Through the centuries the Church has become ever more aware that Mary, "full of grace" through God,134 was redeemed from the moment of her conception. That is what the dogma of the Immaculate Conception confesses, as Pope Pius IX proclaimed in 1854:

The most Blessed Virgin Mary was, from the first moment of her conception, by a singular grace and privilege of almighty God and by virtue of the merits of Jesus Christ, Savior of the human race, preserved immune from all stain of original sin.135

492 The "splendor of an entirely unique holiness" by which Mary is "enriched from the first instant of her conception" comes wholly from Christ: she is "redeemed, in a more exalted fashion, by reason of the merits of her Son".136 The Father blessed Mary more than any other created person "in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places" and chose her "in Christ before the foundation of the world, to be holy and blameless before him in love".137

493 The Fathers of the Eastern tradition call the Mother of God "the All-Holy" (Panagia), and celebrate her as "free from any stain of sin, as though fashioned by the Holy Spirit and formed as a new creature".138 By the grace of God Mary remained free of every personal sin her whole life long.

570 posted on 02/18/2010 11:36:49 AM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Petronski

Now please answer the question in your own words. One sentence or less would really do it.

Did Mary, who gave birth to the Savior in Bethlehem, require that Savior to shed His Blood for HER sins?

You could answer with a “yes” or a “no.”


571 posted on 02/18/2010 11:40:41 AM PST by John Leland 1789 (But then, I'm accused of just being a troll, so . . . .)
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To: Petronski

Perhaps you could refresh my memory . . .

how is it that the vast bulk . . . what 90% or so??? of the Marian stuff

was only formalized around 1930 or after.

!!!!TRADITION!!!! evidently took 1600 years or so to fossilize?


577 posted on 02/18/2010 11:56:54 AM PST by Quix ( POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Petronski

Was Mary’s mother sinless? How could a sinful womb carry a sinless child?


608 posted on 02/18/2010 1:13:07 PM PST by RnMomof7
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