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To: annalex
At the time of the crucifixion St. Peter, the future pope, was warming himself at the fire and lying. The rest ran off. Have you ever read the gospel you keep denying?

Not so infallible huh?

Yes, Rev 12:17 makes a reference to Mary. Clear as a bell. That woman is described as mother of Christ. What pagan goddess?

It is only clear if one can not rightly divide the word of God and if they are willing to be literal for a few verses, then ignore what does not fit and then be literal again..

Catholics are fee to have a pagan goddess as the queen of their heaven if they so choose

Jer 7:18 The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead their dough, to make cakes to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto other gods, that they may provoke me to anger.
Jer 44:17 But we will certainly do whatsoever thing goeth forth out of our own mouth, to burn incense unto the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto her, as we have done, we, and our fathers, our kings, and our princes, in the cities of Judah, and in the streets of Jerusalem: for then had we plenty of victuals, and were well, and saw no evil.
Jer 44:18 But since we left off to burn incense to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto her, we have wanted all things, and have been consumed by the sword and by the famine.
Jer 44:19 And when we burned incense to the queen of heaven, and poured out drink offerings unto her, did we make her cakes to worship her, and pour out drink offerings unto her, without our men?

Literature tells us that the "queen of heaven" which was the same Pagan goddess that Israel worshipped when they became apostate and followed the pagans was Ashtoreth,/Astart/ Ishtar

THAT is the queen of heaven .....

224 posted on 02/17/2010 11:21:59 AM PST by RnMomof7 (Here I stand. I can do no other. God help me. Amen.)
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To: RnMomof7
THAT is the queen of heaven .....

Amazing you're willing to declare a fictional pagan goddess the Queen of Heaven, but you deny that title to the Mother of God.

227 posted on 02/17/2010 11:34:05 AM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: RnMomof7
Catholics are fee to have a pagan goddess as the queen of their heaven if they so choose

But we do not.

Ashtoreth,/Astart/ Ishtar THAT is the queen of heaven .....

YOU do.

228 posted on 02/17/2010 11:35:18 AM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: RnMomof7

Amazing how ineducated in things Catholic you are despite your claimed prior Catholicism.
The popes are infallible only if they pronounce a solemn doctrine on faith and morals, and make it clear to all.

Further, St. Peter wasn’t even a pope then.

Yes, the implication that Mary is the Queen of Heaven is in Rev. 12 and yes, somebody long before that worshiped a false one.


411 posted on 02/17/2010 5:20:39 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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