You guessed it..
Frank Stallone!
“Lucifer” means “bearer of light” and was coined back when the only sources of light were fire, which is why Hell is considered a hot place.
This is pretty interesting stuff
A hallucination.
And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves into ministers of righteousness, whose end will be according to their works. -2 Corinthians 11:14-15 (NKJV)
-———————Would this be like Obama ‘claiming’ he’s white?
It definitely isn’t Obama..
You think Satan wants people to clean up their acts? Nope.
“The “Jesus” (being of light) typically encountered in near-death experiences teaches such things as:
* Death is good and is not to be feared.
* Sin is not a problem. In fact, this “Jesus” often responds to human sin and shortcomings with humor.
* There is no hell to worry about.
* All people are welcome to heaven, regardless of whether one has placed faith in Christ.
* All religions are equally valid.”
I have read a LOT of near death experience accounts and many of them do include hell, and “Jesus” showing them hell and admonishing them that such a fate awaits those who are evil and wicked. Do a search of “hellish near death experiences” and that will give you a sample. In this context then, the idea that sin is no problem would not fit either. There is an enormous number of NDE accounts, and one needs to read many of them to get an idea of how varied they are, and how incredibly detailed and extensive some are. I have seen statistics that say up to 40% are hellish but they are simply not talked about much......for obvious reasons.
I didn’t realize this was in the religion forum since it is a contoversial subject. I am not sure about the religion forum rules about debate.
Anoxia, a.k.a. brain fade
And maybe Ron Rhodes is Satan.
There are numerous reports of hellish and frightening near-death experiences. The positive experiences do not seem to stress an opposition or indifference to the Christian gospel, as far as I have heard.
So the children who have seen the “being of light” are meeting Satan? Is that your theory?
I don’t buy it.
Carlos Castaneda had an interesting take on this.
He described this “thing” as just that, a thing, not God or a demon, that is sometimes encountered by ordinary people in conditions of severe stress, when their awareness has been knocked askew from their normal perceptions. People can also perceive it as an accomplishment, after a lot of training as well, in a much more systematic process.
However, he notes, people invariably interpret this thing as either Jesus or God, or as their deity, and male if they are male, or female if they are female. They also imagine it to be full of warmth and love and kindness, etc., even imagining other people praying to it.
But the truth is that it is none of that. Castaneda calls it “the mold of man”, like a mold that stamps out plastic toys. Specifically, it is the mold, or pattern, used by the human species to ensure energetic pattern conformity, so that human offspring are energetically like their parents. All other species of life have their own molds, which they use for the same purpose.
Yet this purely utilitarian function is missed by those that perceive it, who pray to it, shamelessly ask for favors, and think and brag for the rest of their lives that they have seen God, once they come back to normal awareness. Or doubt themselves and think they were fooled by a demon.
Castaneda concludes that some people get to see the mold more than once, and soon snap out of their illusion that the mold is anything special. It isn’t even self-aware. It is just a thing.
An interesting take on things, whether or not you like Castaneda.
Not exactly Biblical, but still my favorite “Twilight Zone”
An old man and his dog were walking down this dirt
road with fences on both sides, they came to a gate
in the fence and looked in, it was nice - grassy,
woody areas, just what a ‘huntin’ dog and man would like, but, it had a sign saying ‘no trespassing’ so they walked on.
They came to a beautiful gate with a person in white robes standing there. “Welcome to Heaven”
he said. The old man was happy and started in with his dog following him.
The gatekeeper stopped him. “Dogs aren’t allowed,
I’m sorry but he can’t come with you.” “What
kind of Heaven won’t allow dogs? If He can’t come in, then I will stay out with him. He’s been my faithful
companion all his life, I can’t desert him now.
“ “Suit yourself, but I have to warn you,
the Devil’s on this road and he’ll try to sweet talk you into his area, he’ll promise you anything, but, the dog can’t go there either. If you won’t leave the dog, you’ll spend Eternity on this road “ So the old man and dog went on.
They came to a rundown fence with a gap in it, no gate, just a hole. Another old man was inside. “Scuse me Sir, my dog and I are getting mighty tired, mind if we come in and sit in the shade for awhile?” “Of course, there’s some cold water under that tree over there. Make yourselves comfortable “ “You’re sure my dog can come in? The man down the road said dogs weren’t allowed anywhere.” “Would you come in if you had to leave the dog?” “ No sir, that’s why I didn’t go to Heaven, he said the dog couldn’t come in. We’ll be spending Eternity on this road, and a glass of cold water and some
shade would be mighty fine right about now. But, I won’t come in if my buddy here can’t come too, and that’s final. “
The man smiled a big smile and said “Welcome to Heaven.” “You mean this is Heaven? Dogs ARE allowed? How come that fellow down the road said they weren’t?” “That was the Devil and he gets all the people who are willing to give up a life long companion for a comfortable place to stay. They soon find out their mistake, but, then it’s too late. The dogs come here, the fickle people stay there. GOD wouldn’t allow dogs to be banned from Heaven. After all, HE created them to be man’s companions in life, why would he separate them in death?”
Author Earl Hamner
The Twilight Zone
Interesting post and interesting (and humorous, beethovenfan) thread. BTTT.
You guessed it..
Frank Stallone!
I had a near death experience once. I didn’t see any light, or any beings of light, I just felt an incredible calm.
Common sense would dictate that good people would not go to hell when dead, and even more common sense would indicate that Satan wouldn't deceive dead people, there would be no need for it.
I started reading the bible after a NDE.