Posted on 12/05/2009 6:00:32 PM PST by NYer
Major "Chuck" Sweeney had an extremely risky takeoff before dawn, loaded as he was with the 4.5-ton A-bomb, "Fat Man". Now they were over their primary target, Kokura. He had made three runs over the hopelessly clouded city when he made a shocking discovery: the auxiliary gasoline pipe was blocked. Unless they dropped the bomb soon, they would never get home. He turned his plane southwest for the secondary target, "Nagasaki, urban area".
His B-29 was over Shimabara just before
11 A.M. A radio announcer saw this and excitedly broadcast a warning, and Nagasaki people who heard him ran for their shelters. Moments later, Sweeney and his crew saw Nagasaki right below them through a cloud break, immediately recognizing the Urakami River and the Matsuyama Sports Ground. That put them almost two miles northwest of the planned drop, but time had run out. Bombardier Kermit released the bomb. It was just 11 A.M. when Fat Man went plummeting down onto the city of two hundred thousand souls, of whom more than seventy thousand would die, many without a trace.
Inside the Urakami Cathedral, Fathers Nishida and Tamaya were hearing confessions again after the all-clear. The cathedral was only a third of a mile from where Fat Man detonated and was reduced to rubble in an instant. No one would be sure how many perished inside.
Less than two miles away from the cathedral, Chimoto-san was working on his rice paddy on Mount Kawabira. He heard a noise, looked up and saw a B-29 emerging from the clouds. It disgorged a huge black bomb, and he threw himself to the ground. He waited a minute. Then came an awful penetrating brightness, followed by eerie stillness. He looked up and gasped at the huge pillar of smoke, swelling grotesquely as it rose. Suddenly he realized that a hurricane was rushing toward him. Houses, buildings, trees were being cut down before his startled eyes as if by some enormous, invisible bulldozer. Then came a deafening roar, and he was hurled like a matchbox into the stone wall sixteen feet behind. Shaken to his very soul, he gaped at the pines, chestnuts and camphor laurels torn from the ground or broken off at the trunks. Even the grass was gone!
Midori's nineteen-year-old cousin Sadako Moriyama had just found her two small brothers chasing dragonflies in the Yamazato school yard. She told them their mother wanted them. At that moment, she heard the plane and ran with them to the school shelter. As they entered, they were picked up and hurled to the far wall, and she blacked out. Coming to, she heard the two children whimpering at her feet and wondered why it was so dark. As a little light began to penetrate the gloom, she was paralyzed with terror. Two hideous monsters had appeared at the shelter's entrance, making croaking noises and trying to crawl in. As the darkness lifted a little, she saw they were human beings who had been outside when the bomb exploded. In less than seconds, they had been skinned alive, half a mile from the epicenter, and their raw bodies had been picked up and smashed into the side of the shelter.
She went outside. The light was weak, as if it were barely dawn. She cried aloud when she saw beside the sandbox four children, without clothes or skin! She stood there transfixed, her eyes involuntarily drinking in the hideous details. The skin of their hands had been torn away at the wrists and hung from their fingernails, looking like gloves turned inside out.
Feeling she was losing her reason, she dashed back into the shelter, accidentally brushing the two victims still squirming and moaning near the entrance. Their bodies felt like potatoes gone rotten. Their horrible animal croaking sound began again. She realized they were saying something. Mizu, mizu. Water, water. That cry was to run like a cracked record in the nightmares of Nagasaki survivors for years.
Michiko Ogino was ten years old and enjoying the summer holidays at home. Just after 11 A.M. she was terrified by a giant lightning flash, followed by a horrendous roar, and within seconds she was one of the thousands pinned under the roofs or walls of their homes. The blast of the bomb caused air to rush from the epicenter at over a mile a second, knocking houses flat. Almost immediately, an equally violent wind rushed back into the vacuum left at the epicenter.
Michiko was hopelessly pinned there, but her screaming brought a stranger who freed her. Outside, she was startled to see evil-looking clouds that twisted and writhed and blackened out the sun. 'What kind of new lightning had done this? Then she became conscious of a tiny voice becoming hysterical. It was her two-year-old sister trapped under a crossbeam. She turned for help and saw dashing toward them a naked woman, her body greasy, and purple like an eggplant, and her hair reddish brown and frizzled. Oh no! It was Mother! The speechless Michiko could only point to her sister under the beam. The mother looked wildly at the fires that had already started, dived into the rubble, put her shoulder under the beam and heaved. The two-year-old was free, and the mother, hugging her to her breast, collapsed onto the ground. There was no skin left on the shoulder that she had put under the beam, just raw bleeding meat. Michiko's father appeared, badly burnt too. He watched in dumb helplessness as his wife groaned and struggled to rise. Then all her strength ebbed away, and she collapsed, dead.
Nagasaki was now burning, and Sakue Kawasaki sat in disbelief inside the Aburagi air-raid shelter. He could see people staggering about outside, naked and swollen like pumpkins. Then came a babel of croaking voices piteously begging for mizu, mizu, but where could he get water? There was a puddle of dirty water outside the entrance to the shelter, and one of the victims crawled over, lowered his lips into it and drank with succulent noises. He tried to crawl to the shelter but collapsed and stopped moving. One by one, the others drank from the puddle and crumpled up motionless. What terrible thirst could drive men to act like demented lemmings?
The plutonium-239 bomb exploded in Nagasaki with the equivalent force of twenty-two thousand tons of conventional explosives but with vast differences. Setting aside for the moment the A-bomb's lethal radiation, there was its intense heat, which reached several million degrees centigrade at the explosion point. The whole mass of the huge bomb was ionized and a fireball created, making the air around it luminous, emitting ultraviolet rays and infrared rays and blistering roof tiles farther than half a mile from the epicenter. Exposed human skin was scorched up to two and a half miles away. Electric light poles, trees and houses within two miles were charred on the surface facing the blast. The velocity of the wind that rushed out from the epicenter was more than one mile per second, sixty times the velocity of a major cyclone. This caused a vacuum at the epicenter, and another cyclone rushed back. in, picking up acres of dust, dirt, debris and smoke that darkened the writhing mushroom cloud.
Young Kata-san was walking his cow on a hillside outside Oyama, five miles south of the epicenter. He was startled by the flash and watched, rooted to the spot, as a huge white cloud rose up like a grotesque organism fattening itself by some weird magic. The cloud was white on the outside but fired by some hideous red energy within. Then came alternating flashes of red, yellow and purple. Gradually the cloud went into a mushroom shape, and a black. stain grew on its stem. When the cloud reached a great height, it burst open and collapsed like an obscene grub that had gorged on more than its stomach could hold. The mountains all around were lit by the sun, but the area below the cloud was shrouded in darkness. Then came Kato's second shock, a roar of wind so strong that Kato mistook it for another bomb exploding nearby.
A Song for Nagasaki: The Story of Takashi Nagai, Scientist, Convert, and Survivor of the Atomic Bomb
“inconvenient verses 21 and 22”
Ah, but Romans 4:10 and 4:11 show that just war is not merely permitted, but an inescapable moral duty.
That was a good book.
I loved the part when they had to make and emergency landing after the bomb run and depleted their flare inventory in order to get the runway cleared.
Youll find it in the Ten Commandments as number six.
While it is common to render kill to mean murder in order to provide justification the the times when humans do kill humans (war, capital punishment, self defense), Jesus makes the meaning plain in His Sermon on the Mount, Matt 5:21-22
Thou shalt not kill means Thou shalt not kill. When we do we are in violation of Gods law.
What I found in YHvH's word is: NAsbU Deuteronomy 5:17 'You shall not murder. YHvH commands us to use the death sentence for murderers Yah'shua repeats His commandment not to murder in The Hebrew word for murder is HSN-7523 תרצח׃ ratsach (953d) I pray you seek the face of G-d in His Word and not in the traditions of man. I don't find that anywhere in YHvH's commandments:
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
NAsbU Exodus 20:13 "You shall not murder.
Other references are :
Exod. 20:13; Deut. 5:17; Ps. 62:3; 94:6; Jer. 7:9; Hos. 4:2; 6:9; Matt. 5:21; 19:18; Mk. 10:19; 15:7; Lk. 18:20; 23:19, 25; Acts 9:1; Rom. 1:29; 13:9; Jas. 2:11; 4:2 NAsbU Genesis 9:6 "Whoever sheds man's blood, By man his blood shall be shed, For in the image of God He made man.
You seem to be using a mis-translation from the Vulgate or the KJV
Matt. 5:21; 19:18; Mk. 10:19; 15:7; Lk. 18:20; 23:19, 25
Exo 20:13 לא תרצח׃
Meaning: to murder, slay
Origin: a prim. root
Usage: killed(1), kills the manslayer(1), manslayer(18), murder(7), murdered(2), murderer(12),
murderer shall be put(1), murderers(1), murders(1), put to death(1), slew(1).
Notes: (a) Gen 9:6; Exo 21:12; Lev 24:17; Mat 5:21; Mat 19:18; Mar 10:19; Luk 18:20; Rom 13:9; Jam 2:11
I’ll politely disagree with your opinion, interpetation and reasoning on these matters. As well, what is or not relevant to this discussion on this thread. Clearly we differ.
> You seem to be using a mis-translation from the Vulgate or the KJV
I use the KJV, which translates the Word of God with sufficient accuracy for any Christian to adequately understand God’s Will and Christ’s Commandments.
One advantage to Christianity is that we need not debate the subtleties of linguistics in order to understand God’s intention. This is because Jesus Christ Himself provided further revelation, which removes all doubt.
In this case, the difference between “murder” and “kill” in the Ten Commandments is made moot by Christ’s words in the Sermon on the Mount. Not only is the Christian expected not to (murder/kill) his fellow man, but Christ holds us to an even higher standard of behavior, as we read in Matt 5 21:22. Irrespective of whether we believe God meant “Thou Shalt Not Murder” (as you believe) or “Thou Shalt Not Kill” (as I believe), that baseline is lifted to Christ’s higher expectation for His followers.
> I pray you seek the face of G-d in His Word and not in the traditions of man.
Likewise, FRiend.
I use the KJV, which translates the Word of God with sufficient accuracy for any Christian to adequately understand Gods Will and Christs Commandments.
One advantage to Christianity is that we need not debate the subtleties of linguistics in order to understand Gods intention. This is because Jesus Christ Himself provided further revelation, which removes all doubt.
In this case, the difference between murder and kill in the Ten Commandments is made moot by Christs words in the Sermon on the Mount. Not only is the Christian expected not to (murder/kill) his fellow man, but Christ holds us to an even higher standard of behavior, as we read in Matt 5 21:22. Irrespective of whether we believe God meant Thou Shalt Not Murder (as you believe) or Thou Shalt Not Kill (as I believe), that baseline is lifted to Christs higher expectation for His followers.
Anyone who claims to believe in Yah'shua Yah'shua states in Mark It states that YHvH has lied. All followers of the Christ believe that YHvH is the same yesterday, today and forever. YHvH commands that animals be killed and offered. YHvH condemns murder, be it be Cain and Abel or any other Most followers of the Christ believe the Sermon on the MountThe Torah was written in Hebrew by YHvH.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
would look to the Hebrew understanding
of "You shall not Murder". NAsbU Mark 12:29 Jesus answered, "The foremost is,
Yah'shua also said:
'HEAR, O ISRAEL! YHvH OUR Elohim IS ONE YHvH; NAsbU John 10:30 "I and the Father are one."
The understanding that Yah'shua has made a new revelation
other than the prophesy in the Book of Revelation is indulging in blasphemy.
human Being created in the image of YHvH.
See Genesis 9:6
refers to the justice which will occur during the Millennium Reign of Yah'shua.
I'd guess by your screen name you're Catholic, so take it up with one of your own: Saint Augustine comments: If the Christian Religion forbade war altogether, those who sought salutary advice in the Gospel would rather have been counseled to cast aside their arms, and to give up soldiering altogether. On the contrary, they were told: 'Do violence to no man . . . and be content with your pay.' If he commanded them to be content with their pay, he did not forbid soldiering.1
The US operates in all aspects in a legal war environment. Some members may behave dishonorably, but their sin doesn't transfer on to the vast majority.
Your view of what a 'serious Christian' would do is painful. You libel the service and sacrifice of generations who set you up so you can libel them.
> The Torah was written in Hebrew by YHvH.
I respectfully disagree. The Torah was written by Moses on God’s instruction.
The 10 Commandments were written by God onto stone, given to Moses, smashed by Moses, re-written by God, given again to Moses and stored in the Ark of the Covenant.
> Anyone who claims to believe in Yah’shua would look to the Hebrew understanding of “You shall not Murder”.
I claim to believe in Jesus, not Yah’shua, and as a Christian it is sufficient for me to read what Jesus instructed and to follow that. Christ fulfilled the Ten Commandments and they no longer apply to us today.
As I said earlier, because Jesus provided further instruction of his own to supersede the Sixth Commandment, we as Christians need follow only Christ’s commandment that replaced it. So whether the word in Hebrew means “murder” (as you believe) or “kill” (as I believe) is moot and no longer relevant. Christ provided alternative instructions and holds His followers to a higher standard.
> Most followers of the Christ believe the Sermon on the Mount refers to the justice which will occur during the Millennium Reign of Yah’shua.
I am unaware of any Christians who believe that. There is nothing in the Sermon on the Mount that indicates that it isn’t to apply with immediate effect. In fact, the behaviors taught in the Sermon on the Mount are classic characteristic behaviors expected of all Christians.
I respectfully disagree. The Torah was written by Moses on Gods instruction.
The 10 Commandments were written by God onto stone, given to Moses, smashed by Moses, re-written by God, given again to Moses and stored in the Ark of the Covenant.
U-2012> Anyone who claims to believe in Yahshua would look to the Hebrew understanding of You shall not Murder.
I claim to believe in Jesus, not Yahshua, and as a Christian it is sufficient for me to read what Jesus instructed and to follow that. Christ fulfilled the Ten Commandments and they no longer apply to us today.
As I said earlier, because Jesus provided further instruction of his own to supersede the Sixth Commandment, we as Christians need follow only Christs commandment that replaced it. So whether the word in Hebrew means murder (as you believe) or kill (as I believe) is moot and no longer relevant. Christ provided alternative instructions and holds His followers to a higher standard.
That describes lawlessness. What does Yah'shua say about lawlessness ? Also see Matt. 7:23; 13:41; 23:28; 24:12; Rom. 6:19; 2 Co. 6:14; 2 Thess. 2:3, 7; Heb. 1:9; 1 Jn. 3:4 You seem to be on the wide road of lawlessness. Mazol Tov! Have wonderful journey. May you someday come to know YHvH and His salvation. So the Ten Commandments of YHvH no longer apply ??
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
NAsbU Matthew 7:23 "And then I will declare to them,
Was Yah'shua talking about His Law ??
'I never knew you;
DEPART FROM ME,
YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.'
> So the Ten Commandments of YHvH no longer apply ??
That is correct. The Ten Commandments have been fulfilled by Christ and superseded by His commandments.
> You seem to be on the wide road of lawlessness
No, I’m on the straight and narrow road that is called Christianity.
That is correct. The Ten Commandments have been fulfilled by Christ and superseded by His commandments.
U-2012> You seem to be on the wide road of lawlessness
No, Im on the straight and narrow road that is called Christianity.
May YHvH and His Son (YHvH is my salvation) have mercy on you. You have been deceived by False Shepherds. Seek YHvH in His Holy Word. Then you follow some G-d other than YHvH and His Son Yah'shua.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
> Then you follow some G-d other than YHvH and His Son Yah’shua.
I follow Jehovah and His Son the Lord Jesus Christ.
> May YHvH and His Son (YHvH is my salvation) have mercy on you.
I have faith that I will be Saved by Grace.
Sloppy Agape and Greasy Grace don't save.shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiachMembership in a man made enterprise will not save.
Seek YHvH and His salvation in His Word only.
> Sloppy Agape and Greasy Grace don’t save.
Christians are saved by Grace, not by Works, as St Paul goes to some considerable lengths to explain in his letter to the Romans.
And it was God’s Love that provided His Son Christ for a sacrifice for our sins, so that we could believe on Him and be saved.
Those are two core, fundamental Christian principles. I believe these principles because I am a Christian.
The really sad thing is that you already know this.
Don’t believe I said that it was....
Just pointing out the selective bias of our liberal educational system.
The Japanese atrocities in China led to our embargo of Japan.
Japan’s attack on America started our official active involvement in ww2 - BTW Hitler declared was on the US because we declared war on Japan.
Unfortunately our approved textbooks in this country overlook these minor facts.
A mans got to know his limitations.
‘Away All Boats’ - a great movie have it in 16mm and a 1st edition book
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