Posted on 10/12/2009 10:54:17 PM PDT by delacoert
To be honest I don’t know any Christian that goes on about the end times. Most just struggle with the here and now...like everyone else.
Sigh.
Looooooooot of errors in this article.
“And, I might add, the early church Fathers knew nothing of the “rapture.”
I suppose it’s because the failed to read the Scriptures.
“For this we declare to you by a word from the Lord, that we who are alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord. 18Therefore encourage one another with these words.”
Inconvenient as some may find them, the Scriptures do have a way of busting up creaky traditions.
As long as they have beer and good music in hell, I have no problems.
No bear or music, just a lake of fire that goes on forever.
Please re-evaluate, I think you'll appreciate the effort years down the road.
(And for what it's worth, I hope the're a loophole that sneaks AC/DC in upstairs, too.)
I had a non-Catholic great-grand father who was preaching about the End of Times 60-70 years ago and from what I can tell we are still here.
As for me, I sat in Catholic Church and went to Catholic School and never one heard a priest predicting that the End of Times were upon us.
And from what I can tell, the only person today who is predicting the end of times in Al Gore.
I am beginning to realize two of the main benefits of not resisting the Holy Spirit and accepting and knowing the truth about the end time events which are rapidly unfolding before us.
As we approach what is going to happen very soon now, all we will have left is the moment we are in and the only rock we can stand on is faith in our Lord Jesus Christ.
Any other interpretation is about denial or self reliance or some other such nonsense and it is doomed to fail.
Has it not always been God’s desire that we live in the now only by trusting in him?
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I’ve known a whole church full of them, a Presbyterian church, even. It seems to depend on the “insights” of the preacher.
My reply I just noticed said “No bear or music, just a lake of fire that goes on forever”. I just noticed I spelled beer “bear”. No, there are is no music, beer or bears, just a lake of fire that goes on forever.
I’m not a scholar, but from what I understand of Catholic doctrine, we (humans) don’t know when end of times will be. Only God knows that, and anyone who claims otherwise, is not credible (my interpretation).
With God’s mercy, many will be saved, and again only God knows who they will be.
We are told to pray continuously for the world (Divine Mercy), the souls who have died, and Jesus’ return.
The only thing we do know with certainty about end times is who wins the final battle. Christ came once as God’s servant to die for our sins, this time “He will come again in glory”.
http://www.ewtn.com/Devotionals/mercy/coming.htm
“I suppose it’s because the failed to read the Scriptures.”
No. The Eastern Fathers read them and understood them so well that Revelation, a particular literary type common in the Hellenistic Jewish world until about 150 AD, wasn’t accepted as part of the canon of the NT until about the 8th century and even then as part of an old deal with the West involving the Letter to the Hebrews. Then and now Revelation is consigned to a dusty back shelf and is never used liturgically in Eastern Christian churches.
More likely that you haven't read the Church Fathers.
"Scriptures" are what fundamentalist dispensationalists think Scofield's notes are. :)
Of course Catholics believe that time will end and Christ will return.
We say it every week at Mass, “Christ has died, Christ has risen, Christ will come again.”
What we don’t believe is Millenarianism heresy.
Frankly, you can die in the next minute and face your doom so wondering about that which is hidden in Revelation, Daniel and the rest is interesting and complex and not something we delve into daily.
I think Apocalypse is often used to throw people into fear of conversion rather than love in conversion. That’s why it is used and why self-styled “prophets” spout stream-of-conscience thoughts as prophecy.
IMHO.
You wrote:
“”Scriptures” are what fundamentalist dispensationalists think Scofield’s notes are.”
Ouch! That’s gonna’ leave a mark!
OF course it does...That's why God commands us to study the scriptures and tell us to search the scriptures to know whether we have eternal life...
This guy instead, studies his religion's catechism which is no more than his religion's commentary on some of the scripture...
Is it any wonder Revelation is foolish to him???
This guy's religion doesn't believe in prophecy...His religion doesn't believe in the OT miracles...
This group is going to figure out what God says and means using their superior intellect instead of using scripture...They have to...
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