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ND’s McBrien: Eucharistic Adoration “is a...spiritual step backward” (Catholic Caucus)
WDTPRS ^ | 09/08/2009 | Fr. Z.

Posted on 09/08/2009 11:58:44 AM PDT by Pyro7480

In many places where perpetual, or even frequent, Eucharistic Adoration has been made available, there have been great benefits.

But Richard McBrien of Notre Dame is again Eucharist Adoration. In his latest piece for the dissenting, ultra-liberal National Catholic Reporter McBrien wrote this with my emphases and comments:

... The practice of eucharistic adoration began in the 12th century, when the Real Presence of Christ was widely rejected by heretics or misunderstood by poorly educated Catholics. The church saw eucharistic adoration as a way of reaffirming its faith in the Real Presence and of promoting renewed devotion to it.

However, as time went on, eucharistic devotions, including adoration, drifted further and further away from their liturgical grounding in the Mass itself.

Notwithstanding Pope Benedict XVI’s personal endorsement of eucharistic adoration [In other words, who cares what the Pope thinks.] and the sporadic restoration of the practice in the archdiocese of Boston and elsewhere, it is difficult to speak favorably about the devotion today.

Now that most Catholics are literate and even well-educated, [In other words, Adoration is probably something only stupid people are interested in.] the Mass is in the language of the people (i.e, the vernacular), and its rituals are relatively easy to understand and follow, [Really? Ask people after Mass what the epiclesis is for? or what the Gospel reading was?] there is little or no need for extraneous eucharistic devotions. The Mass itself provides all that a Catholic needs sacramentally and spiritually[No need for confession, either, I suppose.]

Eucharistic adoration, perpetual or not, is a doctrinal, theological, and spiritual step backward, not forward.


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TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: catholic; eucharist; eucharisticadoration; heretic; mcbrien; notredame
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Just leave the Church already!
1 posted on 09/08/2009 11:58:46 AM PDT by Pyro7480
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To: Siobhan; Canticle_of_Deborah; NYer; Salvation; american colleen; Desdemona; StAthanasiustheGreat; ..

Catholic ping!


2 posted on 09/08/2009 11:59:59 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: Pyro7480

Given the vast tracts of dissent written by this fellow (and fellow he is who never seems to wear a collar but a business suit) why has no disciplinary action taken against him? Does a professorship provide insulation for this kind of nonsense?


3 posted on 09/08/2009 12:04:44 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Pyro7480

Lord grant me patience. If he doesn’t believe in Eucharistic Adoration, he is free to find another church, and leave the rest of us to our worship in peace.


4 posted on 09/08/2009 12:05:08 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: Pyro7480
What he leaves out is that backing away from McBrien's apostasy is a very good thing.
5 posted on 09/08/2009 12:06:42 PM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Pyro7480

"Now that most Catholics are literate and even well-educated..."

Except in the president's office and theology department at Notre Dame.
Obama Adoration is OK though, right?

6 posted on 09/08/2009 12:06:43 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Pyro7480
Preach it, Father Z!

McBrien should go and join the Episcopalians . . . but of course then he wouldn't receive the publicity and notoriety that he obtains as a 'dissenting' 'Catholic'.

Which appears to be what he's really after.

7 posted on 09/08/2009 12:09:09 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: Pyro7480

Doubly backward
When Episcopals do it,
I would imagine...


8 posted on 09/08/2009 12:09:57 PM PDT by Haiku Guy (If You have a Right / To the Service I provide / I must be a Slave)
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To: Pyro7480

Okay, so let’s say that your mom is in a nursing home. Once a week, on Sunday, you go to see her and she is happy.

One week you decide to see her on a Wednesday as well. She is even more happy. Does anyone think that just seeing her on a Sunday is “Good enough” so you never go another Wednesday again?

Do you love her? Do you want to let her know that “there are nine months of carrying charges you can never repay”?

McBrien either does not believe that the Eucharist is actually Our Lord or doesn’t give a rat’s behind about what Our Lord has done for him.

I’ll choose to spend the time Adoring Our Lord who did so much for me. McBrien can call me any names he wants. Doesn’t matter at all.


9 posted on 09/08/2009 12:10:11 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: Pyro7480
McBrien's spiritual minimalism is unCatholic. It's unChristian.

Frankly, it's unGodly.

Dunno 'bout him, but:

The LORD is my shepherd, I shall not want; 2 he makes me lie down in green pastures. He leads me beside still waters; 3 he restores my soul. He leads me in paths of righteousness for his name's sake. 4 Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I fear no evil; for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff, they comfort me. 5 Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of my enemies; thou anointest my head with oil, my cup overflows. 6 Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life; and I shall dwell in the house of the LORD for ever.

10 posted on 09/08/2009 12:11:20 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Pyro7480

Why would anyone choose to adore the Christ in his most vulnerable and fragile form at 2 am in deep prayer?

On both knees bowing deeply, reverently, humbly.

I wonder what the “step forward” is???


11 posted on 09/08/2009 12:13:45 PM PDT by Voter62vb
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To: Pyro7480

Yeah, the last thing we need today is something that helps folks treat the Sacrament like what it really is...

And I wonder who knows more about the faith, the average 12th century Catholic or the average US Catholic today.

Freegards


12 posted on 09/08/2009 12:15:18 PM PDT by Ransomed (Son of Ransomed Says Keep the Faith!)
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To: Pyro7480

Does anyone besides the CINO’s and MSM listen to this bozo? I sure don’t think his words have any impact on faithful Catholics.


13 posted on 09/08/2009 12:15:35 PM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: Pyro7480

Call to Action.

Look at the guy. He - like most other CTA types, are a dwindling nnumber, slowly slipping off into the destinies they have demanded.


14 posted on 09/08/2009 12:18:23 PM PDT by TheGeezer
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To: Pyro7480
there is little or no need for extraneous eucharistic devotions.

MCBRIEN: There is little or no need for extraneous devotions to Jesus.

15 posted on 09/08/2009 12:20:25 PM PDT by frogjerk (Obama Administration: Security thru Absurdity)
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To: Pyro7480

exactly. Doing the work of the devil though. So I guess he’ll stick around as long as he is beneficial in promoting doubt and evil at every turn.


16 posted on 09/08/2009 12:23:31 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: Pyro7480
Is he still incardinated in the Hartford, CT, Archdiocese (Archbishop Henry Mansell) where he last served at Our Lady of Victory Parish in West Haven in about 1962 or is he now incardinated in Fort Wayne-South Bend, Indiana, Diocese (Bishop John D'Arcy)? Copies of McBrien’s writings should be forwarded to the appropriate diocesan ordinary together with respectful requests for disciplinary action against McBrien. Early in his tenure as Archbishop of Hartford, how retired Archbishop Cronin stripped McBrien out of the diocesan newspaper The Catholic Transcript specifically because of his heterodox opinions.
17 posted on 09/08/2009 12:27:21 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: Pyro7480

I have been reading this site daily for years. This is the first time I felt the need to sign up for an account and post. I am a life long catholic and recently started doing adoration once a week. I cannot believe someone would advise against this. I have felt both the grace and presence of God numerous times while doing adoration. At the very least, this is a great time to spend an hour in quiet alone - what is wrong with that?


18 posted on 09/08/2009 12:44:15 PM PDT by LSUrepublican
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To: Pyro7480

There’s a reason ND is going down the drain - scholastically, athletically, spiritually.


19 posted on 09/08/2009 12:46:36 PM PDT by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna!)
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To: Pyro7480

Catholic FReepers may be interested in the Priestly Pugilist blog’s piece on “Bernadine-style ‘Catholicism-Lite’”

http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/post?id=2334778%2C1


20 posted on 09/08/2009 12:48:17 PM PDT by Scanian
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