Posted on 08/23/2009 2:23:37 PM PDT by tcg
What happened is that representatives of the ECLA succumbed to heresy. Oh, I can hear it now, “how dare he say such a thing?” Because… it is true, and there is nothing compassionate about failing to help fellow Christians to reject error. Christians abandoning the clear teaching of the Sacred Scriptures and the unbroken Christian Tradition is not a new phenomenon in the 2000 year history of the Christian Church. What is new is the massive support that such a sad turn of events receives from this kind of media report. ...
All one has to do is look to the first few centuries of the Christian Church to see that this is not new. The same issues and struggles existed very early on. Irenaeus, the Bishop of Lyon, France, was born in Asia Minor in the year 125. His efforts are one example of the many early Church Fathers who contended for the truth and pulled no punches. His seminal work was entitled “Against Heresies” precisely because so much of his work was spent exposing and opposing false teaching in order to protect the Christians of that day from their poison. His treatise is a refutation of the teachings of certain “Christian” Gnostics whose followers fell for similar heresies as those which were voted upon by the ELCA this past week. Irenaeus’ goal was stated in the Fifth Book of the treatise, to “…reclaim the wanderers and convert them to the Church of God” and to “confirm at the same time the minds of the neophytes” (Preface, Book V).Irenaeus loved the heretical Christians enough to speak the truth precisely to try and lead them back to the faith. We must follow his example.
(Excerpt) Read more at catholic.org ...
Just another butt boy and lizard organization; another part of the bigger useful idiot’s brigade!
Often you will hear, "Oh, that's just those people in Chicago! We don't give our money to them, and they don't really have anything to say about what we do here."
Wrong on all counts. They'll find out soon enough that these high-living fruits have already picked off the low-hanging fruit.
Didn’t the American Episcopal Church do that first?
Yes they beat the ELCA Lutherans by a couple years, and watching the whole thing is very much a deja vu experience. The same vicious homosexual hostility and collusion from political leftists that has crippled the episcopalians is at work destroying the Lutheran traditions and orthodoxies.
One of the sad things is that in both churches there is a large ballast of lifelong members, most of them getting up in years, who identify with the denomination and yet know very little of what is being perpetrated in their names.
To be fair, it was 2/3. Not that it matters, but the % was 66.67%.
They had already succumbed to it. They are just adding to it.
It’s not that we members of the ELCA do not understand how heretical the ELCA is becoming. There’s only one reason why I am still with the ELCA. I love my home congregation. The people are good. They believe the Bible. We have been assertive about our rejection of the ELCA’s move toward gay clergy. We even withheld our synod dues for several years at one point in protest of the direction that the ELCA was going on this.
My heart breaks. I pray and I will continue to speak the truth in love to those who rule the ELCA and pray for ears to be opened to the word of God, and for them to understand that the grace of God does not exclude the necessity of the repentance for sin.
This makes me more and more glad to be Catholic.
man...Satan is sure tending his crops
...and me to really be Lutheran.
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With all due respect, the problem started on 31 October, 1517.
Had the Church not decided to sell indulgences, that Sunday would have passed as any other.
Sorry about that,the day i posted it,my laptop was acting up and having stuck-key error.
Sorry again.
I can truly understand your dilema, but you are living in a state of denial. For years I have heard clergy and laity in the ALC, LCA, and now ELCA make the same argument. It has become a rationalization to remain within an apostate church. Putting loyalty to a building or to friendships above that which is pleasing to God, it like the Israelites trying to serve the Lord and Baal. If you serve the Lord, then serve the Lord; if you serve Baal, then serve Baal. You can’t serve both.
Thank you!
Pick up your congregation and move into one of the other Lutheran movements that also believes in the Bible. If the congregation won’t come then they do not believe in the Bible.
I have had a similar choice to make here in Oz with the uniting church the door out got bigger and bigger until the same decision was made. The congregation all said they belive in the Bible but if they had ever read it then it was not obvious as they fell for the party line hook, line and sinker - either that or they made excuses for staying. Nothing should stand between you and God including love for your congregation.
Sorry I am being so tough but I feel you may need to hear it.
Blessings
Mel
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