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To: Guyin4Os; Zionist Conspirator
Descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob who have the faith of the same kind as Abraham's are "true Israel." But as to the grafting-in part, yeah ... Paul taught that in his letter to the believing assembly in Rome.

So, Christians are second-class groupies?

But let me ask you this. Would you consider an atheistic Jew a member of "true Israel?" That is to ask, do you consider someone who denies the existence of the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob to be a part of "true Israel?"

My understanding as far as Judaism is concerned: to the extent that he is observant of the mitzvot, yes. Even an atheist Jew can be acceptable to God. I would say as long as he did not worship false gods and lived a righteous life, he would is a part of true Israel.

You have to remember that an atheist Jew is still a Jew. A Jew who is a Christian is no longer a Jew, the way a nonpracticing Catholic is still a Catholic by baptism, but a Catholic who became an Mormon is no longer a Catholic, because he believes in an altogether different deity.

231 posted on 08/09/2009 6:26:40 PM PDT by kosta50 (Don't look up, the truth is all around you)
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To: kosta50

correction: “he would is a part...”=”he would be a part...”


232 posted on 08/09/2009 6:27:39 PM PDT by kosta50 (Don't look up, the truth is all around you)
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To: kosta50

Ok... in your view, God is pleased with those who do not believe in Him. What more can I say.


237 posted on 08/10/2009 12:12:55 AM PDT by Guyin4Os (My name says Guyin40s but now I have an exotic, daring, new nickname..... Guyin50s)
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