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To: kosta50
Christians have fabricated a myth on top of a myth, claiming that not only was the OT written for them as well, but that somehow they have been "grafted" onto the Abraham's family tree and represent the "true" Israel.

Christians aren't "true Israel." Descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob who have the faith of the same kind as Abraham's are "true Israel." But as to the grafting-in part, yeah ... Paul taught that in his letter to the believing assembly in Rome.

But let me ask you this. Would you consider an atheistic Jew a member of "true Israel?" That is to ask, do you consider someone who denies the existence of the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob to be a part of "true Israel?"

219 posted on 08/09/2009 3:52:29 PM PDT by Guyin4Os (My name says Guyin40s but now I have an exotic, daring, new nickname..... Guyin50s)
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To: Guyin4Os; Zionist Conspirator
Descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob who have the faith of the same kind as Abraham's are "true Israel." But as to the grafting-in part, yeah ... Paul taught that in his letter to the believing assembly in Rome.

So, Christians are second-class groupies?

But let me ask you this. Would you consider an atheistic Jew a member of "true Israel?" That is to ask, do you consider someone who denies the existence of the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob to be a part of "true Israel?"

My understanding as far as Judaism is concerned: to the extent that he is observant of the mitzvot, yes. Even an atheist Jew can be acceptable to God. I would say as long as he did not worship false gods and lived a righteous life, he would is a part of true Israel.

You have to remember that an atheist Jew is still a Jew. A Jew who is a Christian is no longer a Jew, the way a nonpracticing Catholic is still a Catholic by baptism, but a Catholic who became an Mormon is no longer a Catholic, because he believes in an altogether different deity.

231 posted on 08/09/2009 6:26:40 PM PDT by kosta50 (Don't look up, the truth is all around you)
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