[glide625]

Oops, sorry, misunderstood; I avoid the peace and justice crowd at all costs and didn’t understand that’s who you were referring to. BTW, my wife wears the Mantilla; great writing there. Thanks.

[Desdemona]

I borrowed that from Fish Eaters. And being in the choir where I am, I can't wear a veil. And no, I'm not switching choirs - this is the best church choir I've ever been in, bar none. And at the pro level in classical music, it's incredibly hard to find in a Catholic church.

Some of us couldn't avoid the peace and justice sorts if we tried. Actually, it's kind of fun to watch them twitch when you disagree - and when you point out things that they don't want to be realities (like social clique ego feeding). All in all, I find out a lot more background info knowing a diverse crowd than I ever would just sticking to people who agree with me.

[Notwithstanding]

“Peace and Justice”

is code for

“(Often Elderly) Godless Free-love Communists Exploiting the Respect and Resources enjoyed by the Catholic Church”