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To: TheBattman

Rick, nor you, nor I, are responsible for other peoples relationship with God.

I dont see anything in here that Rick said that is a compromise. I see the author interpreting it as such. This is the authors opinion.

This is just another hit piece, regardless of your personal opinion of Mr Warren.


2 posted on 07/07/2009 7:35:40 AM PDT by Magnum44 (Terrorism is a disease, precise application of superior firepower is the cure)
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To: Magnum44

Except that the reported statements of Mr. Warren seem to match up with previous actions and statements by Mr. Warren.

I have repeatedly heard him in public forums shy away from agreeing that Jesus Christ was the ONLY way to the Father/Heaven.

He has disavowed support for Prop. 8 in California
Right in the first paragraph of the letter I posted - Mr. Warren “envisions a coalition of faith”...

Or this:

“Joseph Farah says, “Suffice it to say the ISNA is no friend of Christianity or America.” Yet in 2007, Rick Warren was one of many “evangelical leaders” who signed a document begging forgiveness from Muslims for all the evil deeds perpetrated against them by Christians. What evil deeds have true Christians committed against Muslims? Now, Pastor Warren, you’ve gone beyond pandering and are sounding like a fool along with all others who signed that document.”

This was an “open letter” that addresses a real pattern of behavior and denial on the part of Rick Warren. A pattern that has been growing and developing for some time now.

No, I am not responsible, directly, for anyone’s relationship with God. But I am responsible to God Almighty to follow HIS Word and commission - to preach the Gospel to all. Rick Warren, as an ordained minister of the Word is called out (if indeed he is truly called) to do the same - with a special level of responsibility.

There is but one solution to what ails the world - and it isn’t a cooperative relationship with Islam. The solution is Jesus Christ.

From appearances, Rick Warren’s purpose is about self-glorification.


6 posted on 07/07/2009 7:47:59 AM PDT by TheBattman (Pray for our country...)
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To: Magnum44
This is just another hit piece, regardless of your personal opinion of Mr Warren.

Do you know who Jan Markell is? Usually when a "hit piece" is penned, it is with a particular axe to grind - personal or business/financial.

What does Markell have to gain by a "hit piece" on Rick Warren? Markell is a conservative Christian writer/columnist who is heavily burdened for the Truth of Jesus Christ.

8 posted on 07/07/2009 7:50:41 AM PDT by TheBattman (Pray for our country...)
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To: Magnum44
This is just another hit piece, regardless of your personal opinion of Mr Warren.

Sorry, but I disagree.

If Rick Warren is truly a man called to preach the gospel of Christ, his first, and only mission, is the salvation of souls, not getting along with people.

Since Rick did not Preach Christ crucified and their need to repent and believe the Gospel, he is remiss and did not fulfill his commission as a preacher.

Christianity is not about "Can't we all get along", instead, Christ stated that:

51 Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:

52 For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three.

53 The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
11 posted on 07/07/2009 8:06:42 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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