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Is Slavery Evil?
Post Scripts ^ | OneVike

Posted on 05/31/2009 9:26:02 AM PDT by Freepmanchew


The topic of slavery is usually accompanied by bitter feelings and condemnation for Americas past. Like America, many civilizations have used slavery as a means of providing labor. Samarian drawings on clay tablets dating back to 4000 BC show captives taken in battle being tied, whipped, and forced to work. Then there are ancient papyrus manuscripts from 2100 BC that record the ownership of slaves by private citizens in Egypt. The earliest mention of slavery in the Bible would be Genesis 9:25 when Noah cursed the descendants of Canaan. From Abraham on down we read of the men in the Bible owning slaves and the Israelites themselves becoming slaves, but never do we read of God condemning slavery. We do read of Him telling Moses how to treat slaves in Exodus chapter 21, but neither God nor Jesus ever condemned the practice.

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TOPICS: Apologetics; General Discusssion; History; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: apologistsforslavery; evil; history; kickonevikeoutagain; scripture; slavery; slaveryandthebible
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Interesting, if you read this and follow his logic, you must admit he makes a good point.

As usual OneVike finds a way to make one think. This should be an interesting debate.
1 posted on 05/31/2009 9:26:03 AM PDT by Freepmanchew
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To: Freepmanchew
Evil is relative to the moral, ethical and religious doctrines in play within the given society.

Assuming Judeo/Christian values and a Christian nation, slavery is wholly and completely evil and absolutely intolerable.

By extension, the weakening of the role of Judeo/Christian values in American society makes it entirely possible that slavery could return to America, albeit not in the form that we saw previously.

2 posted on 05/31/2009 9:30:53 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Freepmanchew

Jesus ever condemned the practice.

Same argument homosexuals who want to be priests and ministers use.


3 posted on 05/31/2009 9:31:49 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Freepmanchew

Well just off hand, there is that voluntary/involuntary thing to consider...


4 posted on 05/31/2009 9:34:34 AM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: Freepmanchew

Being totally submissive to God is a world away from being forcibly owned by another human being.

Slavery is evil and this article is as bad as the moral relativism I hear every day from the hard left.


5 posted on 05/31/2009 9:34:38 AM PDT by Natufian (The mesolithic wasn't so bad, was it?)
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To: Caipirabob
Assuming Judeo/Christian values and a Christian nation, slavery is wholly and completely evil and absolutely intolerable.

It's clear on reading the Bible that portions of the book imply that slavery is tolerated.

6 posted on 05/31/2009 9:35:22 AM PDT by mc6809e
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To: Talisker

Yea, minor point -gggg


7 posted on 05/31/2009 9:36:40 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Freepmanchew

Every seven years all the Hebrew slaves were to be freed.


8 posted on 05/31/2009 9:37:08 AM PDT by DManA
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To: mc6809e

In the Bible God tolerates all kinds of things not within his perfect will. Polygamy for instance. That btw always led to big trouble though - eg. that whole Arab Jew thing.


9 posted on 05/31/2009 9:39:18 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Freepmanchew
Slavery is evil. Murder is evil. Lying is evil.

Morality is pretty black and white except at the very edges where few of us ever venture.

And for those of you who think the rules are "oh so gray" let me know what rules I don't have to follow when I DEAL WITH YOU.

10 posted on 05/31/2009 9:40:24 AM PDT by GOPJ (To a community organizer, every citizen looks like a victim entitled to someone else's money-Philbin)
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Same argument homosexuals who want to be priests and ministers use.

Now where in the Scriptures do we see homosexuality equated with giving your life to God?
So your comparison does not hold up.

You all are really missing his whole point about why God would not condemn it.
11 posted on 05/31/2009 9:42:25 AM PDT by Freepmanchew ( <:)))>< Proverbs 30:7-9)
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To: Freepmanchew

Sounds like a debate that was settled in this country around April of 1865.


12 posted on 05/31/2009 9:42:34 AM PDT by allmost
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right off the top, we need to realize that the modern usage of the word “slave” is not the same as the old bible usage. There was no distinction between indentured servitude and a slave. Today there is.

Today we are slowly bit by bit being enslaved by our government. Is that evil?


13 posted on 05/31/2009 9:44:36 AM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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14 posted on 05/31/2009 9:52:04 AM PDT by Freepmanchew ( <:)))>< Proverbs 30:7-9)
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Saying “Jesus never condemned slavery” is rather lawyerly. The entire NT is strongly subversive of the practice. “there is neither Jew nor Greek, nor slave nor free” implies no qualitative difference. Compare this to the Koran, which clearly approves of the practice.

It is not an accident that the abolition movement was entirely Christian in origin.


15 posted on 05/31/2009 9:52:09 AM PDT by denydenydeny ("I'm sure this goes against everything you've been taught, but right and wrong do exist"-Dr House)
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To: Caipirabob
"By extension, the weakening of the role of Judeo/Christian values in American society makes it entirely possible that slavery could return to America, albeit not in the form that we saw previously. "

This is a very insightful point. And it is relevant to the question of "health care reform" currently rolling its way through Congress.

Have you ever wondered why of all the public services the communist countries (e.g. Cuba) always boast of their free health care for all? The brain-dead dummies in the media are always touting the Cuban system over ours because of its health care system even though by all measures the Cuban system is backward and crude.

But the reason the communists give free health care is important too. Just as a farmer gives free health care to his animals so they can serve him so the ruling elite in the socialist countries give free health care to the workers so they can serve the state.

Slaves in the antebellum South had free health care. They had free health care because it was in the economic interest of their masters to keep them healthy enough to work. This is the logic that drives Obama and the left.

So join the chorus in the press and bleat like a sheeple. The massuh is gunna give us all free health care. And all we have to do is surrender our freedom and be willing to live like a slave.

16 posted on 05/31/2009 9:53:09 AM PDT by trek
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To: Freepmanchew

Google “black slave owners” - rather surprising.


17 posted on 05/31/2009 9:54:57 AM PDT by dainbramaged (If you want a friend, get a dog.)
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To: denydenydeny
The article does not argue the point of whether we should practice it. He makes a point that God not only is silent on it, but actually made provisions for it. He points out that God made rules for how you should treat eachother, but not about slavery itself, accept for the Jews. Even Paul did not demand Philemon to release Onesimus.

Paul spoke out against every evil there was, but slavery.... Why?
18 posted on 05/31/2009 9:56:25 AM PDT by Freepmanchew ( <:)))>< Proverbs 30:7-9)
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To: Caipirabob

By extension, the weakening of the role of Judeo/Christian values in American society makes it entirely possible that slavery could return to America, albeit not in the form that we saw previously.
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The current plan is to enslave all the most productive people and make them serve the elitest oligarchy who will rule and will, in turn, dispense bread to the rabble to keep them quiet. I think it worked in Rome for a short while.


19 posted on 05/31/2009 10:01:58 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Change has come to America and all hope is gone.)
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To: Freepmanchew

You betchurass it is.


20 posted on 05/31/2009 10:05:43 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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