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Religious discussion, fight leaves man unconscious
The Salt Lake Tribune ^ | 05/20/2009 | Nate Carlisle

Posted on 05/21/2009 10:14:30 AM PDT by restornu

Who would Jesus arrest? Well, Salt Lake City police arrested the combatant left conscious Tuesday in a fight over religion.

About 3 p.m. Tuesday, two men near 800 East and 900 South in Salt Lake City got into a discussion over whether Jesus was a Mormon or a Catholic. The discussion led to blows, police said, and when officers arrived, one man was unconscious and the other was sitting on a sidewalk. The man still conscious was intoxicated, police said, and arrested on suspicion of assault and public intoxication.


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1 posted on 05/21/2009 10:14:30 AM PDT by restornu
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To: restornu

According to plain history, he was Jewish.

I think the first Christians came around a few hundred years after his death, though I could be wrong.

Mormonism is a fairly new belief. I don’t know why somebody would think he was a Mormon. I’ve never heard anything about a harem.


2 posted on 05/21/2009 10:17:11 AM PDT by wastedyears (Iron Maiden's gonna get ya, no matter how far!)
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To: restornu
The man still conscious was intoxicated,

Are you suggesting that because the intoxicated man was still conscious that he was the Catholic? Because you just can't tell if that is so by inference.

Also - who in the heck argues religion with a drunk man. That man who would do so should have his head examined - and since he is unconscious I think his head will indeed be examined!

3 posted on 05/21/2009 10:18:02 AM PDT by colorcountry (A faith without truth is not true faith.)
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To: restornu

What a couple of morons.

Jesus was Jewish! How could anyone NOT know that? Especially the so-called religious.

These denominations came out of what HE is, not vice-versa.

Denominational arrogance is abundant these days.


4 posted on 05/21/2009 10:21:37 AM PDT by J40000
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To: wastedyears

>I think the first Christians came around a few hundred years after his death, though I could be wrong.

You are. There were christian churches mere decades after his death.


5 posted on 05/21/2009 10:22:29 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: wastedyears
I think the first Christians came around a few hundred years after his death, though I could be wrong.

Around 138 AD, Justin Martyr wrote something to the effect of: "All who take these opinions from these men are, as we before said, called Christian".

This is the first surviving usage of the word "Christian" of which I am aware.

6 posted on 05/21/2009 10:23:37 AM PDT by TurtleUp (So this is how liberty dies - to thunderous applause!)
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To: wastedyears

Unless someone baptized him in a Mormon temple. Baptism of the dead is a common practice in the LDS faith.


7 posted on 05/21/2009 10:27:33 AM PDT by Andyman (The truth shall make you FReep.)
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To: J40000

well it seems you have join arguing with the morons drunks!:)


8 posted on 05/21/2009 10:27:37 AM PDT by restornu
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To: restornu

oh...I thought this was another crevo thread...

...never mind


9 posted on 05/21/2009 10:28:45 AM PDT by woollyone (I believe God created me- you believe you're related to monkeys. Of course I laughed at you!)
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To: TurtleUp
This is the first surviving usage of the word "Christian" of which I am aware.

"The disciples were called Christians first at Antioch" (Acts 11:26b).

"Then Agrippa said to Paul, 'Do you think that in such a short time you can persuade me to be a Christian?'" (Acts 26:28).

"However, if you suffer as a Christian, do not be ashamed, but praise God that you bear that name" (1 Pet. 4:16).

10 posted on 05/21/2009 10:30:37 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo (The GOP: The Big Tent with a Fifth Column.)
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To: Thane_Banquo

You’re right, and I should have known that. I (mentally) went with the oldest original document I knew of with the word, which was rather silly of me. Thank you for the correction.


11 posted on 05/21/2009 10:35:36 AM PDT by TurtleUp (So this is how liberty dies - to thunderous applause!)
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To: wastedyears
I think the first Christians came around a few hundred years after his death, though I could be wrong.

Yep, you're wrong - his disciples were known as Christians within their lifetimes.

12 posted on 05/21/2009 10:35:54 AM PDT by xjcsa (Currently shouting "I told you so" about Michael Steele on my profile page.)
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To: wastedyears

Bingo.
Jesus was born a Jew and died a Jew.
He gave us something wonderful, but he remained a Jew.


13 posted on 05/21/2009 10:48:25 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: restornu

So, who won?


14 posted on 05/21/2009 10:57:28 AM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: TurtleUp

The is also this.

The earliest recorded use of the term outside the Bible was when Tacitus recorded that Nero blamed the “Christians” for the Great Fire of Rome in AD 64.[4]

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian


15 posted on 05/21/2009 10:58:51 AM PDT by Netheo
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To: wastedyears; Gamecock; Alex Murphy

Maybe Jesus actually rode into Jerusalem on a bicycle wearing a white dress shirt.


17 posted on 05/21/2009 10:59:39 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: restornu
Jesus (center) with 9 of his 12 disciples.


18 posted on 05/21/2009 11:02:42 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: SJSAMPLE; wastedyears

Bingo.
Jesus was born a Jew and died a Jew.
He gave us something wonderful, but he remained a Jew.

Hello!

Jesus was “The Christ” therefore His Followers were the Christians!:)


19 posted on 05/21/2009 11:03:09 AM PDT by restornu
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To: annalex

It seems the debate is not over....

!:)


20 posted on 05/21/2009 11:03:59 AM PDT by restornu
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