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Gay marriage is not about rights. It is an attack on Western Culture.
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Posted on 04/30/2009 7:45:14 PM PDT by El Gringo

A much more insideous move is behind the Gay Rights movement than most of us dare to imagine. It is an attempt to stamp out Moses and the laws handed him by God. You talk about the Audacity of Hope! The leftists are going for the "whole enchilada" on this one.more...


TOPICS: Current Events; Moral Issues; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: culturalmarxism; culture; enemiesofthebible; homonaziagenda; homosexualagenda; islam; morals; rousseau; socialism; unbiblicalmarriage; westernculture
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1 posted on 04/30/2009 7:45:15 PM PDT by El Gringo
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To: El Gringo

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2 posted on 04/30/2009 7:52:23 PM PDT by plsjr (<>< "Diversity" = "accept anything, including the worst" Choose the best on its own merits.)
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To: El Gringo

There are a number of names for “Political Correctness”: “Multi-Culuralism,” “Diversity,” etc.

But the name for it that we should be USING is “Cultural Marxism.”

Every time you are writing or speaking about “P.C.,” etc., STOP. And replace it with “Cultural Marxism.”


3 posted on 04/30/2009 7:57:36 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (If Bishop D'Arcy finds out a priest is molesting kids, he will boycott the parish's Fall Supper!!!)
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To: El Gringo

Sorry, but this is where everyone gets it wrong. It is not an attack on “Western Culture”. It is an attack on human nature.

Every human society that ever existed on this planet had some kind of an arrangement wherein a man and a woman co-habited as an entity and had some form of “family”. It may have been an “extended family”, and not necessarily monogamous (for heaven’s sake, even the Hebrews of the Old Testament were polygamous), but it was a family unit based on a male-female model.

That has been the case in even the most primitive societies that have been discovered in the last 50 years, in New Guinea and in the Amazon, where pre-modern tribes have emerged from the jungles.


4 posted on 04/30/2009 8:10:16 PM PDT by norge
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Its an attack on both..and on every civilized society in the world.


5 posted on 04/30/2009 8:15:45 PM PDT by liberalism is suicide (Communism,fascism-no matter how you slice socialism, its still baloney)
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To: Arthur McGowan

Thank you. You are the first one who has said what I have been saying for six months.

The Marxist goal: destroy the institution of marriage and the family and move the State into the rearing of children.

The Constitution was written to protect the individual. It was not written for government to redefine a human relationship that has existed since mankind began. Any effort to change the way humans treat that unique relationship between a man and a woman differently than has been accepted by mankind for eons, will fail. That is because this is a biological predisposition that is not predisposed by culture, but by the natural human state.
This totalitarian effort to twist our legal system and our Constitution to oppose the natural order of our biological identity is social tyranny. And to oppose them is to defend our Constitution which defends the individual against tyrants.

I believe that setting homosexual unions on the same level as heterosexual unions is Marxism. It has its roots in egalitarianism which infiltrates the culture and makes way for an acceptance of Marxist ideals. Marxism puts all humans on an equal level (a “classless society”). The difficulty with this in human relationships is that it does not take into consideration the biological differences between the sexes. It is because of these biological differences that society sets apart the heterosexual union. This is done to counteract the biological forces that work to undo the heterosexual union. Without that special treatment, that cornerstone of society, the family, would disintegrate and follow the biological impulses that you would see in primitive societies. Of course, we would cease to be a great nation, which is what the Marxists would love to see happen.


6 posted on 04/30/2009 8:15:57 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The Obama Administration is a blueprint for Fabian Socialism.)
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To: El Gringo

Sorry, but this is where everyone gets it wrong. It is not an attack on “Western Culture”. It is an attack on human nature.

Every human society that ever existed on this planet had some kind of an arrangement wherein a man and a woman co-habited as an entity and had some form of “family”. It may have been an “extended family”, and not necessarily monogamous (for heaven’s sake, even the Hebrews of the Old Testament were polygamous), but it was a family unit based on a male-female model.

That has been the case in even the most primitive societies that have been discovered in the last 50 years, in New Guinea and in the Amazon, where pre-modern tribes have emerged from the jungles.


7 posted on 04/30/2009 8:17:51 PM PDT by norge
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To: El Gringo

Well after seven posts I see here so far, at least everybody agrees it’s wrong.


8 posted on 04/30/2009 8:32:26 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...Call 'em What you Will, They ALL have Fairies Living In Their Trees.)
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To: El Gringo

We have a Swedish Freeper named Western Culture. I thought some homo tried to threaten him.


9 posted on 04/30/2009 8:59:38 PM PDT by max americana
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Of course its an attack on Western Culture. The civil rights movement and all ‘rights’ movement for all these “victims” or minority groups was never about civil rights. Its sole aim was to create class warfare and change our society from a free republic into a marxist one. I'm afraid to say it but the strategy is working.
10 posted on 04/30/2009 9:13:25 PM PDT by EAGLE7 (They MAY take our lives but they'll never take our freedom!)
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Exactly.

In the 1970s, the Left tried to abolish marriage in the name of “freeing women from patriarchal oppresion.” When that didn’t work they decided to do something similar, i.e., rob marriage of any true meaning. Once marriage and the family are destroyed, the state will take its place and become man’s “liberator” Jean Jacques Rousseau-style.


11 posted on 05/01/2009 4:07:59 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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I kinda wish the gubberment never had involved itself with marriage. I don’t think gubberment involvement has been good for the institution. Now we have folks thinking a piece of paper from the gubberment makes someone more or less married, even if it is impossible like two men or two women. That’s gubbermental conditioning on a huge scale. I bet if it was left up to religious institutions, the number of folks willing to accept gay marriage is possible would be tiny compared to now.

Women priests, men priestesses, greenish red, gay marriage. All things that can’t make sense.

Freegards


12 posted on 05/01/2009 4:27:51 PM PDT by Ransomed (Son of Ransomed Says Keep the Faith!)
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To: El Gringo

The perversion of homosexual marriage is an attack on the people the homosexuals hate.


13 posted on 05/01/2009 4:52:30 PM PDT by DMG2FUN
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To: ReformationFan

“The state will take its place and become mans liberator.”

This is precisely why I believe the philosophy of Marxism/modern liberalism is so extremely dangerous. It is the exact opposite or antithesis of Christianity which says Liberation can only come from God through Christ. I hope I don’t come across as a religious wack-a-doo, but perhaps the Anti-Christ is not one person but an ideal or world wide movement which seeks to rid God from the heart of man and enslave mankind.

We see that marxism and liberalism has and is spreading world wide and more and more people ridicule Christianity. Could we be living in the last days? This is why I agree with people like Yuri Benmenov when they say that only religion; specifically Christianity (which is what he meant) can save the West from its descent into marxism.


14 posted on 05/02/2009 5:59:57 AM PDT by EAGLE7 (They MAY take our lives but they'll never take our freedom!)
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Agree. Ultimately, when man rejects God, he tries to fill that void with something else and in most cases, he chooses an “omnipotent”, state government which is in fact no liberator but one of the greatest enslavers of mankind.

Just look at some of the old propanda posters of Marx, Lenin, Stalin and Mao. They’re done in the style of paintings the Church and its artists used to authorize of Jesus. Statism/communism/socialism/Marxism/Rousseauism, etc., is a religion and I wish its followers would have the intellectual integrity to admit this.


15 posted on 05/02/2009 6:07:36 AM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: El Gringo

The whole gay marriage issue is whittled down to nothing more than: MONEY. It is an attempt by the queer nation to force industry to pay for benefits. Does your or any other company allow you to buy medical, life, dental or vision coverage for you or your girlfriend/boyfriend? No. Ergo:gay marriage... an avenue that legitimizes the “relationship” in order to secure benefits.


16 posted on 05/02/2009 6:16:55 AM PDT by Mashood
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To: El Gringo

Make no mistake, from Day One, the so-called Gay Rights movement has been about destroying Christianity.


18 posted on 05/02/2009 8:12:13 AM PDT by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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True. I wish they would “come of the closet” and admit to it. The One who said this: ‘4 He answered, “Have you not read that he who created them from the beginning made them male and female, 5 and said, ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? 6 So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man separate.”’(Matthew 19:4-6) can never be compatible with their agenda.


19 posted on 05/02/2009 8:15:15 AM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: EAGLE7

On a local radio show, a father called in to say he was touring a public school for his child. He saw a kindergarten classroom where a teacher was telling her students it was the job of the government to take money from the rich to give to the poor. And all this time I thought our side had won the Cold War.


20 posted on 05/02/2009 8:17:16 AM PDT by ReformationFan
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